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Sanford judge rules in favor of motorist who flashed his headlights

Orlando Sentinel -- A judge in Sanford ruled Tuesday that a Lake Mary man was lawfully exercising his First Amendment rights when he flashed his headlights to warn neighbors that a deputy had set up a speed trap nearby.

That decision is another victory for Ryan Kintner, 25, who sued theSeminole County Sheriff's Officelast year, accusing it of misconstruing a state law and violating his civil rights, principally his right to free speech.

He was ticketed Aug. 10 by a Seminole County deputy, but Kintner alleges the officer misapplied a state law designed to ban motorists from flashing after-market emergency lights.

Circuit Judge Alan Dickey earlier ruled that that state law does not apply to people who did what Kintner did, use his headlights to communicate.

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Submitted May 25, 2012 By: Alaydown

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TheHermit Champion Author Maine Posts:3,404 Points:127,030 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 28, 2012 6:51:44 PM Ignore TheHermit Report Abuse I have to agree with Hotrod Brother. They do have a lot of headlights getting flashed in Daytona.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,981 Points:594,810 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 26, 2012 2:05:24 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
camaro_man Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,215 Points:607,330 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: May 26, 2012 5:07:55 AM Ignore camaro_man Report Abuse wow
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,165 Points:1,113,890 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 26, 2012 4:57:47 AM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse A bunch of baloney
FieroGT Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:14,307 Points:2,503,085 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: May 26, 2012 4:03:34 AM Ignore FieroGT Report Abuse Hmmmm, interesting.
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,594 Points:1,138,245 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 11:23:08 PM Ignore NedW Report Abuse Thank you for a just ruling, Judge Dickey.
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,139 Points:1,087,530 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:57:09 PM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse I used to flash now I just don't care.
OilOnTheCheap Champion Author Ventura Posts:2,085 Points:446,710 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:26:44 PM Ignore OilOnTheCheap Report Abuse A fair and just outcome
hotrod_brother Champion Author Tampa Posts:12,606 Points:2,232,195 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:20:52 PM Ignore hotrod_brother Report Abuse I got flashed a few times in Daytona Beach, but they were much better looking high beams...lol...
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,135 Points:470,125 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:18:38 PM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse Good for the judge.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,109,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:17:55 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse So why are they speeding??? Why would he want to help speeders??? Maybe this is near a park or school??? So the next time a speeder kills a kid, Yes you can flash your lights but why would you want to???
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,970 Points:2,523,410 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:17:26 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse ok
viperND Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,295 Points:732,915 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:14:57 PM Ignore viperND Report Abuse :)
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,935 Points:828,705 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:14:44 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse And what about the security of the others.
gmcgas Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,935 Points:1,710,355 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:14:23 PM Ignore gmcgas Report Abuse good
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,466 Points:2,099,090 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:14:19 PM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse This was a rare ruling. Lucky Guy.
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,523 Points:684,155 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:13:54 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse Ok
northeast2 Champion Author New York Posts:3,849 Points:1,007,200 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:13:50 PM Ignore northeast2 Report Abuse Good comment from METEOR49.
TedNC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:985 Points:224,900 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:13:47 PM Ignore TedNC Report Abuse Florida is nothing but a police state and all cops are desperate for money and will do anything to make a buck off you.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,069 Points:1,099,105 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:13:24 PM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse An honest Florida judge. Who'd think.
Jeeputtputt Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,002 Points:677,465 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:12:46 PM Ignore Jeeputtputt Report Abuse Way to go, Ryan....
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,522 Points:1,855,445 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:12:46 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse my guy, bout time we won something
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,334 Points:1,798,790 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:11:40 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse Good judge. Up for re-election?
METEOR49 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,152 Points:451,225 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:10:56 PM Ignore METEOR49 Report Abuse the guy was just doing his civic duty , slowing down the traffic .
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,067,300 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:10:51 PM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse Good for that Judge.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,677 Points:535,120 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:09:21 PM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Good for him! A hero against the taxation machine, known as quota's.
themaninthehat Champion Author New Orleans Posts:1,824 Points:472,265 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:09:09 PM Ignore themaninthehat Report Abuse As it should be
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,374 Points:695,250 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:08:56 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Yup...Pigs on the prowl to generate some cash by issuing speeding tickets also hand out tickets for warning other divers of a speed traps around here. There's a reason why I never became a COP in life. I never wanted to be hated and feared so much by the rest of humanity despite "Good Money". Sure I would have made myself a fairly a good police officer but the badge sucks. Is it any wonder I never decided to be a scum sucking Lawyer?
Colts13 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,555 Points:545,485 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:07:54 PM Ignore Colts13 Report Abuse Cool!
oloung1 All-Star Author Florida Posts:683 Points:452,825 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:07:44 PM Ignore oloung1 Report Abuse it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that it was Seminole County s.o.
pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:07:42 PM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse Ok
GJA175 All-Star Author British Columbia Posts:735 Points:218,685 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:06:51 PM Ignore GJA175 Report Abuse It costs you here in this country if you do that and get caught...
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,605 Points:3,491,680 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:06:42 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Can one sue someone like Kintner for flashing bright light at them. I find it highly irritating having to deal with high beams coming at me.
Badmoon Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:8,293 Points:1,648,565 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:06:36 PM Ignore Badmoon Report Abuse Still slows people down.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,453 Points:659,275 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:06:01 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Repeat article.
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:2,792 Points:749,860 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:05:28 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse If they don’t want people to know they have a speed trap, then they should hide behind the sign board
mpg611 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,316 Points:566,170 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:04:22 PM Ignore mpg611 Report Abuse A victory for free speech, something the Democrats and Republicans know nothing about.
RichWLIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,072 Points:635,615 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:03:01 PM Ignore RichWLIN Report Abuse No foul.
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:5,359 Points:1,466,500 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:02:01 PM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse yes
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,767 Points:640,910 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:58:27 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse That's the way it should be.
JuicyQ69 All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:639 Points:1,136,835 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:56:17 PM Ignore JuicyQ69 Report Abuse You da man Ryan, and way to go Judge Dickey!
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:553,230 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:53:54 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Cool, some laws are just over the top
gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,696 Points:664,620 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:51:56 PM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Another slap in the face is good for the Sanford Police Department!
ravenclaw_29 Rookie Author Oakland Posts:53 Points:11,410 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:47:19 PM Ignore ravenclaw_29 Report Abuse OK
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,609,325 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:46:32 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Suppose instead of flashing his lights he had stood next to his car and used hand signals to urge folks to slow down; would he have been charged with interfering with an officer of the law? The deputy should have taken his speed trap somewhere else.
gass12 Champion Author Omaha Posts:8,374 Points:2,300,690 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:46:15 PM Ignore gass12 Report Abuse Good decision.
papa56NC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:725 Points:142,760 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:45:00 PM Ignore papa56NC Report Abuse Gid-r-dun Mr.Judge!!!
The_DR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,765 Points:581,165 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:44:10 PM Ignore The_DR Report Abuse Fine by me
seabrz7 Champion Author California Posts:1,400 Points:224,810 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:42:05 PM Ignore seabrz7 Report Abuse Truckers started the trend to warn others of speed traps. I say good to the judge!!!!
singlemom27 Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,093 Points:636,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 8:41:52 PM Ignore singlemom27 Report Abuse Good for the judge...we need to fight against corrupt speed traps.