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Salazar approves massive Wyoming wind farm project

AP - Power Co. of Wy. owner/billionaire Anschutz may have to self-subsidize if congress doesn't. -- Interior Secretary Ken Salazar on Tuesday authorized what he described as potentially the largest wind energy project in the United States, if not the world: A Wyoming wind farm with up to 1,000 turbines.

Most of that area is among the 245 million acres nationwide overseen by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management — hence Salazar's role.

The project is one of seven renewable energy projects Interior announced in August that it would expedite for review. Others include the 100-megawatt Quartzsite concentrating solar energy plant in Arizona, the 750-megawatt McCoy photovoltaic project in California, and the 350-megawatt Silver State South solar energy generation plant in Nevada. "These are going to be landmarks in America.

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drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,151 Points:777,900 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 3:27:53 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse " turbines could go up over a three-year period within an area covering 350 square miles of the hilly sagebrush country south of Rawlins in south-central Wyoming." So much for this pristine land that belongs to the public. "These are going to be landmarks in America. They are going to be what people think about when they think about the American West. And they are going to completely change the way that we think about energy production," said Neil Kornze, acting deputy director of the BLM." I'd say more like skid marks than 'landmarks'! "Salazar's signature means the BLM now can begin site-specific environmental analysis to help plot specific layout of the project's turbines, roads and power lines." Ugly, ugly and what about those endangered insects, lizards, snakes and gophers??? MIRACULOUSLY none exist there....LOL! "The Chokecherry/Sierra Madre wind project is owned by the Power Company of Wyoming LLC, a wholly owned affiliate of Denver billionaire Phil Anschutz's The Anschutz Corp." Gotta pay off those 1%!!!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,811 Points:1,635,270 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 2:50:28 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse good response, N4P.
N4PIP Champion Author Miami Posts:1,010 Points:444,305 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 6:06:20 PM Ignore N4PIP Report Abuse Alaydown: I read the L.A. Times' hatchet job you cited. That article is opinion mixed with fact and tries to dump the blame squarely on one person. Just like you in your comments, the author shows a strongly negative bias towards anything other than fossil fuel-derived energy. It is just your OPINION that a wind turbine is an eye sore. In your comment, you negated to mention the effectiveness of solar energy. The reality is that the moment a photovoltaic panel has sunlight on it, electricity is created. What was cited in the article was a political battle between opposing viewpoints with some manageable engineering issues thrown in. Solar would be a successful energy source at the campuses (WITH NO FUEL COST) if the opposing parties would cut out the bickering. The day of dinosaur fuel and dinosaur thinking is nearing it's end.
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,244 Points:845,865 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:08:31 AM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse It is so hypocritical of the Obama regime to approve these eyesores which produce very little energy and disapprove oil drilling in areas which produce oil we desperately need. Obama continues to obstruct domestic production of oil on federal land/water and works to eliminate cheap energy produced by clean coal. Wind farms are expensive eyesores. They have proven to be a waste of money. The government has spent billions of taxpayer dollars subsidizing their construction and use across the country. But high maintenance costs, high rates of failure, and fluctuating weather conditions that affect energy production render wind turbines expensive and inefficient, which is why more than 14,000 of them have since been abandoned. Before government subsidies for the giant metals were cut or eliminated in many areas, wind farms were an energy boom business. But in the post-tax subsidy era, the costs of maintaining and operating wind turbines far outweighs the minimal power they generate in many areas, which has left a patchwork of wind turbine graveyards in many of the most popular wind farming areas of the US. If you want to read a good story about alternative energy, you should read the Los Angeles Times article on Larry Eisenberg trying to take the LA Community College district off the power grid by spending between 1 to 1.9 BILLION dollars (depending on the cost estimate) on solar, wind and geothermal power for nine college campuses that only spent 8 MILLION dollars in 2010 for power. The wind turbine they built on the college campus spins too slowly in average winds to power a single 60-watt light bulb. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-build6-20110306,0,4909175.story
1OILMAN Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,149 Points:180,260 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:15:02 AM Ignore 1OILMAN Report Abuse Which Obama henchman is getting this handout?
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,487 Points:903,530 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 4:45:06 AM Ignore listerone Report Abuse Looks like Salazar will be part of this nation's 14% unemployment rate in about 14 weeks.
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,910 Points:1,572,600 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 3:32:29 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse ..and we will pay for it, eventually.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,553 Points:2,371,260 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 1:35:15 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Salazar approves massive Wyoming wind farm project, let's hope the taxpayers dollars are Not wasted, like in the past, with some 'green' projects. I hope the wind farm continues producing electricity and not rusting like some of the wind farms in Hawaii (The maintenace cost were very high priced to keep them in operation and producing electricity). Renewable energy from Solar, Wind, Hydro, Thermal, Tidal and/or Nuclear. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
VanIsleLes All-Star Author British Columbia Posts:898 Points:293,795 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:24:09 PM Ignore VanIsleLes Report Abuse Yeah!
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,853 Points:414,700 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:10:14 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse More wind power.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,676 Points:688,925 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:08:19 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Old News
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,443 Points:1,252,525 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:04:40 PM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse Another government come on.
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,681 Points:1,196,290 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:02:25 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Bobdec, why do you say that, "Wind does not work"? (Just asking)
Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,511 Points:1,921,810 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:01:14 PM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse This sounds like a huge project
bobdec Champion Author Miami Posts:9,099 Points:1,796,545 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:58:08 PM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Wind does not work
icemann987 Sophomore Author Sacramento Posts:242 Points:53,320 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:57:04 PM Ignore icemann987 Report Abuse clean energy cant beat that
Bearcat500 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,828 Points:1,655,645 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:57:00 PM Ignore Bearcat500 Report Abuse OK
robaloma Champion Author Houston Posts:2,726 Points:717,800 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:56:49 PM Ignore robaloma Report Abuse ok
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,431 Points:544,275 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:54:44 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Let's hope this doesn't end up in bankruptcy.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,196 Points:1,652,875 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:52:24 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse his own money rather than other people's ... what a concept
rollercoaster All-Star Author Hartford Posts:502 Points:567,960 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:50:06 PM Ignore rollercoaster Report Abuse whatever !!!
ber5 All-Star Author Chicago Posts:664 Points:132,445 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:49:57 PM Ignore ber5 Report Abuse oh boy....
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,993 Points:1,638,975 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:48:32 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “Relationshp [sic] to gas prices?” “how is this development relevant to gasoline prices and/or issues?” Come on guys, try reading the news guidelines before complaining. Anything relating to energy, especially alternative energy resources, is fair game for Newsville. And thank heavens; wouldn’t we all be bored to tears if every news article was about the price of gas?
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:44:47 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse good
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,993 Points:1,638,975 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:43:32 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Let’s get the Production Tax Credit repealed, then see if they still want to build this thing. “Wind” farms are better described as tax farms since the main thing they harvest is tax credits and subsidies from the government — our money.
carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,476 Points:637,270 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:43:15 PM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse And how much are we paying in taxpayer dollars
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,807 Points:743,650 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:42:23 PM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse Ok
JAM11MS All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:830 Points:451,175 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:41:17 PM Ignore JAM11MS Report Abuse ok
CorvairHaven Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,470 Points:1,479,015 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:38:48 PM Ignore CorvairHaven Report Abuse Messing with the natural scheme of things again, without considering long-term environmental impact... and I am definitely not an environmentalist!
GManCo Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:5,121 Points:976,365 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:36:47 PM Ignore GManCo Report Abuse Salazar is stupid.
hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,984 Points:2,291,465 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:35:22 PM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse very good
gmcgas Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,084 Points:1,739,920 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:34:45 PM Ignore gmcgas Report Abuse hummmmmmm
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:34:24 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse that sucking sound is the tax dollars leaving my wallet
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,934 Points:1,869,200 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:33:41 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse OK
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,118 Points:1,136,670 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:33:35 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse serrog:Relationshp to gas prices???????? Someday wind will power everyone GM volts... Until TreeHuggers shut it down for killing a spotted owl/green frog or a weed...
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:9,082 Points:2,104,885 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:30:19 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse And what company is making money on this deal?
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,214 Points:1,415,830 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:30:10 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Only if it makes economic sense.
Mr_Bill_W All-Star Author Virginia Posts:581 Points:377,985 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:29:12 PM Ignore Mr_Bill_W Report Abuse Not to be obtuse, but how is this development relevant to gasoline prices and/or issues?
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,613 Points:1,737,585 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:28:35 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse harness the power of the wind... hope they are successful
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,787 Points:2,386,470 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:27:34 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse I am sure someone will complain. I hope we do not have to pay them to not generate power as is done in some areas when they create it but we cannot use all that is supplied. There had to be a way to store the electricity for later use in the future and a smart grid and better transmission lines.
Drew316 All-Star Author New York Posts:514 Points:445,085 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:27:19 PM Ignore Drew316 Report Abuse So, does that mean rates are going to go down nationwide?
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,695 Points:1,537,880 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:25:45 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Relationshp to gas prices????????
zyzykwy Rookie Author Ottawa Posts:32 Points:56,730 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:23:39 PM Ignore zyzykwy Report Abuse finally an effort to exploit the endless winds rather than finite fuels or radioactive energy sources.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,747 Points:1,798,620 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:21:13 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse More waste. Let power companies do it without subsidy. If is not profitable, it is a loser. Salazar is a loser as is his boss: BHO & Co. Picking losers again. Let the greenies spend their own money, not taxpayers money. Let the greenies spend their own money, not OPM - Other People's Money. Let the greenies walk. Let them freeze. Let them go broke. Let them go first. Green is red. .
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,327 Points:1,331,920 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:20:17 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Great!
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,327 Points:1,331,920 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:19:49 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse We probably will pay!
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,817 Points:663,410 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:19:20 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Why not 3 nuclear power plants putting out the same energy on 1/100th of the land? How much U.S. taxpayer money is this 'massive Wyoming wind farm project' going to cost?
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wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,915 Points:844,035 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:15:11 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Interesting article...