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Refinery problems send California gas prices skyrocketing

Contra Costa Times -- Problems at California refineries have slashed supplies across the state, cutting fuel production and raising wholesale prices -- the price stations pay for their gasoline -- by as much as 73 cents, to levels not seen since 2007.

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Submitted Oct 04, 2012 By: NedW

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:02:13 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse JEric: or maybe "we only rip you off a little bit over here..."?
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,362 Points:2,146,100 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:53:42 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Oct 4, 2012 11:00:52 PM, Suzy7Q wrote: >Just one time the Oil companies could take the hit. The oil companies are not charitable organizations. On the other hand, given my experience with church-sponsored hospitals, they can invoice with the best.
nauzad Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:1,029 Points:287,630 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 3:50:53 PM Ignore nauzad Report Abuse ok.
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,282 Points:2,073,005 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 1:57:51 PM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse If this keeps up, GasBuddy will have to change its slogan - "Find Cheap Gas Prices In California" - to "Find Barely-Acceptable Gas Prices That Only Gouge You Somewhat." Like Irwin says in the Sit n' Sleep ads - "You're Killing Me!"
DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:13,732 Points:2,117,060 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 12:16:15 PM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse i've seen many stating that obama is out raising prices. perhaps it's instead being the romneycacts behind it. :-)
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,952 Points:726,840 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 8:39:09 AM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse OH...NO
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,370 Points:1,246,350 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 7:22:56 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse I hope the Shell refinery workers are getting plenty of overtime.
lazydoggs3 Veteran Author Fresno Posts:258 Points:30,535 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 6:57:04 AM Ignore lazydoggs3 Report Abuse Cooler weather is here this week that usually means little gas price relief with it hope my tank can wait a week to see this
flagtown25 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,177 Points:494,655 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 6:16:23 AM Ignore flagtown25 Report Abuse Bad news
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,978 Points:2,119,565 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 5:40:38 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Should be a wake-up call for those in the rest of the US.
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,773 Points:594,670 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 4:15:23 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Enron
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,795 Points:1,549,775 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 3:24:26 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Yikes!
Bill100 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:41,514 Points:1,165,020 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 1:06:47 AM Ignore Bill100 Report Abuse The land of fruit, nuts, and now cost-prohibitive driving.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,483 Points:665,875 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 9:09:20 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Watch California grind to a halt.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,733 Points:390,900 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 9:09:05 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse California has high gas prices.
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,553 Points:690,005 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 9:00:59 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse ok
Suzy7Q Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,193 Points:372,480 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 9:00:52 PM Ignore Suzy7Q Report Abuse Just one time the Oil companies could take the hit.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,814 Points:1,845,400 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:58:46 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse ANY EXCUSE.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,956 Points:1,927,755 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:55:13 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse shame
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,864,280 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:55:08 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse No sympathy here.
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:52:09 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse crappy news.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,588 Points:1,774,820 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:51:43 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Any excuse works for these rascals.
SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:3,009 Points:462,130 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:51:02 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse Just glad I don't live in California.
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,721 Points:602,965 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:48:18 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Debut that's the real reason...
Thomtec Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,484 Points:611,070 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:46:21 PM Ignore Thomtec Report Abuse Ok
mrselfdestruct Champion Author Arkansas Posts:1,014 Points:170,525 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:41:31 PM Ignore mrselfdestruct Report Abuse Lolz
E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,015 Points:820,970 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:41:11 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse 30mpg80 surmises: "Sounds like time to truck in supplies from nearby states, and declare an emergency temporary exemption on gasoline volatiles." Well, yes, that SOUNDS sensible. HOWEVER, California has its own pollution and environmental regulations, including its OWN gasoline formula. Only California refineries are licensed to produce gasoline for California; it can't be imported. Isn't that a nice cushy arrangement for the regulators?
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,489 Points:1,714,760 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:39:52 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse Yet another reason for soaring prices
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,436 Points:426,800 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:37:35 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Figures.
E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,015 Points:820,970 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:37:25 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse Busymomma56 whines: "The refineries mess up and the people pay. When do they take some responsibility for their mess ups?" Refiners don't make any money either when the refinery isn't running. Ever heard of "supply and demand"? This is the "supply" part affecting the price.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:37:20 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse gas lines are a coming...
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,093 Points:800,075 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:36:56 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse California leads the way with no planning for this at all.
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,798 Points:2,376,725 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:34:04 PM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse Imagine that!
hammer219115 Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:411 Points:22,950 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:32:35 PM Ignore hammer219115 Report Abuse Again?
5Golfer8 Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,148 Points:302,600 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:32:32 PM Ignore 5Golfer8 Report Abuse Here we go again.
truckguy115 Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,633 Points:221,295 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:30:47 PM Ignore truckguy115 Report Abuse this wil only rush in the crash in gasoline prices right along with what ever economic recovery there is. just in time for th election.
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,022 Points:2,473,395 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:30:42 PM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Sheesh!
Jeeputtputt Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,002 Points:677,465 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:30:19 PM Ignore Jeeputtputt Report Abuse any excuse to gouge
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,238 Points:521,550 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:28:47 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse This hurts!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,334 Points:1,534,725 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:28:43 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The station operators do not make a lot of money but if they have no product they will not make anything , regardless of the cost to them.
VanIsleLes All-Star Author British Columbia Posts:898 Points:279,245 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:28:23 PM Ignore VanIsleLes Report Abuse Very unfair
zantor Veteran Author San Bernardino Posts:258 Points:53,025 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:27:19 PM Ignore zantor Report Abuse this hurts
biscuitranch Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:28 Points:13,115 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:25:35 PM Ignore biscuitranch Report Abuse Oh darn, they need to raise their prices. How convenient.
papa56NC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:725 Points:142,760 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:24:03 PM Ignore papa56NC Report Abuse I bet
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,792 Points:646,535 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:23:23 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse More refineries are needed.
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,502 Points:717,675 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:22:09 PM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse And we have to pay for it.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,911 Points:2,134,530 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:21:16 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse SOP when you pile on tons of regulations to previously OK operations.
Busymomma56 Sophomore Author Utah Posts:224 Points:52,120 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:18:24 PM Ignore Busymomma56 Report Abuse Another excuse. The refineries mess up and the people pay. When do they take some responsibility for their mess ups?
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,020 Points:1,585,775 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:16:25 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse Pitiful. Especially so when this could be avoided.
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,066 Points:1,490,780 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:15:49 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Sounds like time to truck in supplies from nearby states, and declare an emergency temporary exemption on gasoline volatiles.