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New study links wind turbines to ill health

Toronto Sun -- They live in the shadow of wind farms, and their stories of turbine-induced illness have been brushed aside by the wind industry, Ontario regulators and the province's Liberal government.

But now, researchers have published the first ever peer-reviewed study linking wind turbines and ill health -- giving opponents of wind turbines their heaviest arsenal in a fight that could shape the landscape of rural Ontario and perhaps political fortunes in the next election.

"I view it as a huge step forward. It definitely gives credibility to our case," said Esther Wrightman, who's led a crusade against 70 wind turbines west of Strathroy.

The study, published in the periodical Noise and Health, found that a random sample of residents living within 1.4 km of wind turbines in two Maine communities

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Submitted Nov 02, 2012 By: BurntOrange

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sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,013 Points:600,660 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 4:26:43 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse ditto, "Come on, what a bogus story. "
RivGasDude Champion Author Riverside Posts:8,200 Points:1,678,990 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 9:58:39 AM Ignore RivGasDude Report Abuse Come on, what a bogus story.
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,952 Points:726,090 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 9:45:48 AM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse OH...NO!!!
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,550 Points:767,900 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 8:43:08 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse One wonders if there is any activity naturally occurring or man made that is not possibly harmful to the mammals including man that inhabit this world. The question that matters is scale. If a very high percentage of people within a given distance have had adverse reactions to the presence of wind farms, then we have a problem. If a very low percentage of people within a given distance have had adverse reactions to the presence of wind farms, then we do not have a problem but it would be very advisable for the wind farm companies and the local governmental entities to buy out those who are experiencing ill effects so that they can relocate.
RonElp All-Star Author El Paso Posts:763 Points:109,620 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 1:02:33 AM Ignore RonElp Report Abuse I'm sorry but this study seems stupid... The turbines cause sleep depravation... Maybe the people are staying up late watching Leno or Letterman. I don't know how the turbines could cause sleep problems. High Voltage powerline EMF fields, maybe. But wind turbines... the humming sounds would relax people and make them sleep better. Like living near the ocean. Or maybe ocean waves cause sleep problems and we should outlaw ocean waves.
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,777 Points:1,867,010 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:46:17 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse Shut down the wind farms, Nuclear is better !!!
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,512 Points:604,425 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 8:29:11 PM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse make changes to take care of these findings.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,609 Points:1,207,330 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 8:09:24 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse This is a single study. Not enough empirical information to shut down Wind Turbines in the US. This should be watched. Just off the top of my head the questions I would ask are What brand of turbine, how tall, average wind speed, are there any other factors, such as have health records been kept before the Turbines were installed, and how large was the sampling of residents. You get the picture.
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,047 Points:703,105 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:56:52 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Sorry to hear that these are affecting people negatively.
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,088 Points:799,100 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:41:39 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse Not good for the going green people.
ToolinIt Champion Author Colorado Posts:1,803 Points:888,945 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:39:11 PM Ignore ToolinIt Report Abuse Clarification of my recent post of wire cages around windmills - the wire cages would need to be made of fine wire mesh screen in order to block the frequencies that interfere with radar.
ToolinIt Champion Author Colorado Posts:1,803 Points:888,945 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:24:35 PM Ignore ToolinIt Report Abuse Wind turbines generate a lot of low frequencies and other sub frequencies that are either close to a human heart rate and/or higher frequencies that can interfere with radar. A single windmill on a farm is pretty much harmless but the large wind farms can pose substantial issues. Why not build wire cages around the windmills that could act as RF screens that would deaden the RF produced and would also protect birds from flying into the blades of the windmills? [Edited by: ToolinIt at 11/2/2012 10:30:49 PM EST]
RitaVespa Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,991 Points:794,310 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:19:25 PM Ignore RitaVespa Report Abuse How about the ill effects of high voltage transmission lines?
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,825 Points:644,000 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 5:09:02 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Do gooders & whiners.
andpren Rookie Author Oregon Posts:59 Points:114,685 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 4:37:23 PM Ignore andpren Report Abuse There is no science in public policy. The mistake is to try to introduce it. Good politicians know how to lead with fear and consensus.
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,340 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 3:02:50 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Hermleigh has a gas station under the brand name Alon (Fina formerly)directly on 84. I have been using it for the last 45 years. You are not always going to be able to see the turbines if the angle of the sun and wind are wrong. I was by last Sunday and filled up. As for the distances my family owns two sections there and I get mail box money if you know what that is from the Roscoe wind far. Maybe it helps that I was in the 108th FAG in Nam and a little deaf possibly. If you want good data set up around the Roscoe wind farm there are 200 turbines to resonate in frequency if there is a problem.
BurntOrange Champion Author Austin Posts:8,738 Points:1,584,965 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:38:51 AM Ignore BurntOrange Report Abuse NDSP--We took 70 south out of Sweetwater. As best as I can tell from Google Earth, all the turbines are a couple of miles from Roscoe and Sweetwater. There are about 4 turbines about 1/2 a mile away from Hermleigh. I20 probably makes a lot more noise than the turbines, but I would think that the frequency would play a role as well. Is traffic noise more harmful than wind turbine noise? I can't say I know. I don't think Hermleigh even has a gas station. The population is less than 400. But you have a point that one could study the residents and see what impact the turbines are having.
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,660 Points:1,119,625 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:35:53 AM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse come on now...
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,099 Points:2,552,955 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:30:46 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse Lets see how this plays out
Cellsite Champion Author Appleton Posts:1,240 Points:289,065 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:30:33 AM Ignore Cellsite Report Abuse right on, AJeepLife. What's next? Street lights cause medical issues?
LarksNY Champion Author Albany Posts:1,409 Points:637,115 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:26:05 AM Ignore LarksNY Report Abuse Kind of like too much solar gives you sunburn.
mnorthwood13 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,385 Points:763,935 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:14:36 AM Ignore mnorthwood13 Report Abuse uh oh
pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:12:33 AM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse Huh?
Hugo40 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:7,639 Points:1,619,930 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:11:03 AM Ignore Hugo40 Report Abuse Another side of the coin?
AJeepLife All-Star Author Ottawa Posts:638 Points:333,850 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:10:38 AM Ignore AJeepLife Report Abuse LMAO./// The balance of scientific, medical and human experience to date clearly demonstrates that sound from wind turbines does not adversely impact human health," spokesperson Chris Forrest said. ---READ- The comment was dismissed as self-interest by the head of a consortium of community groups opposed to industrial wind farms."" "We've been waiting for this study for a long time -- it's just amazing," said Jane Wilson of Wind Concerns Ontario. --- who'se comment was dismissed as self interest by the head of a the wind energy consortium. Tell me where ARENT there some special interest groups?
prius22 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,224 Points:390,260 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:06:55 AM Ignore prius22 Report Abuse It's always something.
bigrigAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,747 Points:1,055,615 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:04:59 AM Ignore bigrigAZ Report Abuse Got to have some kind of 'something more to worry about' news. Happens daily. Years ago we didn't have all of these daily warning. Don't know how we survived. must be because we didn't know about all these bad things.
metrojeep Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,270 Points:437,570 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:03:22 AM Ignore metrojeep Report Abuse Not a believer when it comes from just one study
Lologogo Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,314 Points:356,390 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:58:15 AM Ignore Lologogo Report Abuse I would also like to see more tests/studies done.
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:11,660 Points:1,788,860 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:57:59 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse This needs many more years of study. Look at how long climate change has been studied, and there are still doubters. Look at how long cigarettes had to be studied before anyone had a clue that smoking might possibly be harmful. Yes, many more years of study are needed.
RAC110 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:5,959 Points:1,853,595 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:55:36 AM Ignore RAC110 Report Abuse more tests needed to prove one way or another
jacob5066 Champion Author College Station Posts:1,853 Points:432,540 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:54:35 AM Ignore jacob5066 Report Abuse One article
gas_nipper Rookie Author Seattle Posts:36 Points:201,120 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:53:06 AM Ignore gas_nipper Report Abuse jibberish = zero support
Chinto12 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,036 Points:411,585 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:52:47 AM Ignore Chinto12 Report Abuse of course it does, it had to
eaglev Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,001 Points:937,155 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:51:18 AM Ignore eaglev Report Abuse There are always good and bad with every energy alternative
kheckman Rookie Author Colorado Posts:37 Points:1,663,390 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:47:54 AM Ignore kheckman Report Abuse How is that noise any different than moving from the country to in town with extra noise. I live 20 miles from town and a while back spent a night in a town of only 200 and couldn't sleep from all the extra noise. So maybe towns should be outlawed too. Actually people will just get used to it like living by a highway or airport.
CC55 Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,312 Points:1,399,850 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:47:02 AM Ignore CC55 Report Abuse This article is worthless, NO FACTS!!!!
unloquacious Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,698 Points:1,041,615 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:46:13 AM Ignore unloquacious Report Abuse Ohhh PLEASE!!!! article is kinda vague... some one may have an agenda...
CostEngineer Veteran Author Sacramento Posts:255 Points:143,705 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:46:08 AM Ignore CostEngineer Report Abuse Really? I guess I'm ignorant of these issues from wind turbines. Are there other studies underway that will back this up or refute it?
aalix Champion Author Orange County Posts:23,193 Points:4,124,320 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:44:52 AM Ignore aalix Report Abuse That is disconcerting news.
briinnc Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,705 Points:834,820 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:40:56 AM Ignore briinnc Report Abuse So why not in Denmark and Germany, where they have massive wind farm installations?
95Vette Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,525 Points:634,005 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:39:35 AM Ignore 95Vette Report Abuse Ok.. I may not be reading that article right.. I am blonde.. But the article never says what kind of illness or sick is occuring.. I get 'sick' with colds.. or 'ill' with the flu... and I don't live near wind turbines. This article was nothing but jibberish.
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,340 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:39:07 AM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Burnt Orange if you went to Lubbock last week then you most probably went through Hermleigh which has a 230mw wind farm located in and within 1.4km of the town and schools. There are 3 2.3mw turbines actually on the high school grounds. If you drive south of Sweetwater you will find that Nolan is in the big middle of Horse Hollow Wind farm(735mw). The Roscoe Wind Farm (781mw) comes with in 1/2 mile of the City of Roscoe Texas. Funny what you miss if you stay on the interstate and US 84 bypass.
DblChek Champion Author San Antonio Posts:2,345 Points:615,245 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:37:20 AM Ignore DblChek Report Abuse Nice to have his reported in Canada. Good to be aware of the problem. If it happens here, you won't hear about it in our news media.
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:11,827 Points:1,288,085 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:35:16 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse Sadly, the Liberals will get re-elected in Ontario because they pander to the largest portion of Ontario population - New Canadians. These wind towers could have solar panels mounted on them or does the vibrations of the turning blade shake the tower too much?
BobbyVA Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,519 Points:1,178,475 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:34:57 AM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse You will not hear about this from the Obama Administration or main stream news as it is a negative on his green push. Only published in Toronto Sun, what about the NY Times. I have read about cows not giving milk under power lines and now its wind turbines, it has something to do with the frequency of the noise generated by electricity in power lines and the blades of wind turbines, it may affect humans in a simular way.
GordoM Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,008 Points:996,595 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:33:36 AM Ignore GordoM Report Abuse No details of the study were provided> Makes me very suspicious.
Thor51 Champion Author London Posts:16,211 Points:2,771,410 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:33:19 AM Ignore Thor51 Report Abuse To understand this article, you need to understand the politics in Ontario, Canada ... The Liberal (left-leaning, green-friendly) government has been in a scuffle with the Conservative (right-leaning) opposition party, and the rural homeowners who are being effected by the noise pollution are the pawns in the political battle. I live in the middle of the battleground ... a city-dweller in a rural-surrounded community. The farmowners near the actual and proposed wind farms were not given much, if any, input into the set-backs for houses near the wind farms, and have been trying to get the ear of the Government to involve them in decisions about where to locate the turbines. They have tried the health problem angle for several years, and have now moved on to the property value argument to try to get the rules changed. Until now, the Liberal Government has stated there are NO health risks associated with wind turbines, and cite numerous studies to support that view. The Federal Government, ruled by a Conservative majority waded in to announce a new Health Canada study to be commissioned to study the effect of sound produced by turbines on humans living nearby, but THAT report may take a few years. In the last election, just last year, the encumbent Liberal majority Government was slapped hard by the rural vote and was reduced to a minority government, with the Opposition Conservatives trying to move in for the kill, so to speak. In the last couple of weeks, the Premier has resigned, and prorogued the Government until a new leader is elected by the Liberal Party. And, of course the SUN newspaper chain, who is publishing this article is a right-leaning paper who have consistently written very negative articles about a wide variety of topics concerning the Liberal Provincial Government. And all you folks from south of the border thought the only politics in the news these days involved Obama and Romney!! lol I take this whole article with a grain of salt. Consider the source!
QuagmireLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,079 Points:160,365 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:32:36 AM Ignore QuagmireLA Report Abuse No Coal, No Gas , No Nuclear , No Wind power. Better learn to live live the Amish without electricity.
midnightsdc Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,309 Points:1,485,265 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:31:55 AM Ignore midnightsdc Report Abuse They should be replaced with solar.