drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 7:00:54 PM
VomVom, you are absolutely right. Sad part is people don't really want to learn, they just want to follow the ignorant. The old saying "the blind leading the blind" fits well.
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VomVom

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 6:05:43 PM
There are so many idiotic and ignorant comments about eminent domain that it is not even funny. Why don't you morons go Google it and find out.
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SycamoreISU

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 1:46:14 PM
This is an abuse of eminent domain. Eminent domain should only be used for public projects, such as the right-of-way for a road.
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 8:28:49 AM
No chuckwthompson, Eminent Domain was created because it is sometimes necessary to prevent greedy, selfish or bigotted people from sabotaging the public good.
[Edited by: drpepperTX at 2/27/2012 11:29:07 AM EST]
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teafortwo

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 11:51:28 PM
BIG OIL & GAS love us
Excellent comment chuckwthompson from Charlotte.
"Pipeline route is safe" ... so says BIG OIL
"Cigarette smoking is safe" ... so says BIG TOBACCO
Who needs science and Doctors when you can get advice from BIG GREED industry shills & trolls?
Congressional testimony admitting: - pipeline will INCREASE domestic fuel prices because of plans to EXPORT fuel - pipeline threatens water supplies - "technology got ahead of regulatory oversight" - need for "updated safety regulations" because tarsands oil is "more dangerous" ... - Transcanada has been "threatening landowners" to force them to allow pipeline
BIG OIL & GAS love us
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dsaine

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 4:38:17 AM
Not surprise here.
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epf

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 3:32:24 AM
my head is spinning.
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chuckwthompson

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 12:07:27 AM
This is not what Eminent Domain is designed to used for. It was not designed to allow a foreign country to facilitate a private company.
It was designed to allow government to access land for the greater good for its constituents, not to line the pockets of a foreign company with a private company with no ties to that community.
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93grandzj

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 11:55:13 PM
this will bring a new term to legally stolen. will await to hear this ending.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 10:34:33 PM
seems southrob doesn't like people having clean water..... or air... (grin)
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 10:32:43 PM
Like everything...seems the cons are for eminent domain.....but were against it several years ago....but were for it before then when W & pals used it to confiscate land for the Texas Rangers stadium in Arlington...
Boy they are a fickle lot.
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SparkieMi

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:44:02 PM
The out come of this will be interesting....
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herndonks

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:32:51 PM
No surprise
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southrob

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:20:35 PM
the whole country lost the economy due to stuuuuupiiddd ideas and regulations
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ron98146

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:20:25 PM
without eminent domain we would never get anything built.
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cateyes8264

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:20:13 PM
Kinda mixed on this one. I think the pipeline would help our fuel issues, but I don't like the thought that they can come in and take your property anytime they feel like it.
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Dragnet

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:18:00 PM
What can we expect from a government of Nazi leaders. Adolph himself is in the WH. Seig Hile Odummo
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Beboper

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:17:41 PM
still talking about it
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jwalkerh

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:14:08 PM
This is ridiculous....
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:13:59 PM
Too much use of eminent domain. Never in favor or land-owner.
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movietracker

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:12:39 PM
Really bad
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edamp04

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:12:37 PM
How is that possible?
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goldseeker

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:11:30 PM
Time to kill the pipeline now.
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jkpsr

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:10:59 PM
What ever happened to private property rights? This guy is going to get raped by the buyer, who will turn around and sell it when the XL is denied.
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bra0712

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:08:17 PM
That sucks
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Blue_Cruzer

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:07:33 PM
More delay.
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amgine27

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:06:54 PM
ok
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:06:52 PM
they could build pipeline AROUND this property.
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:05:26 PM
It's not right for them to access her property.
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RAKARWOWSKI

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:04:31 PM
Could have made big money, now zip!
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esquared

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:04:29 PM
From Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's dissent in the Kelo case of 2005:
"Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random. The beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms."
The chickens are coming home to roost.
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blah2blah3

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:02:35 PM
ok
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hamdriver

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:01:52 PM
Pay him well
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eswi

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Madison
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 9:01:32 PM
OK
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tippybuddy

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:52:02 PM
It's good she's trying to keep them off her land but sadly she'll likely lose in the end...the big companies always win it seems..sadly
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PoohMcGoo

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:49:32 PM
Better for this than a lot of ways eminent domain is used..
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Cuzilla

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:47:27 PM
The courts grind on!
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:46:32 PM
Lots of companies have various pipelines across the border from Mexico and Canada too. Eminent domain makes it possible to build these pipelines...for the greater good. It also makes it possible for us to have city water, city and rural electricity, phone service (land lines and cell) refineries, gasoline and a better way of life. Thank God the law permits eminent domain. We'd still be burning kerosene for lights and driving horses which may seem OK to the bloggers below but heck, I like having indoor toilets and clean safe water and stuff.
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dirt girl

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:45:26 PM
Unfortunately it still happens, and usually benefits the local government or tax base.
The most recent example here is that several years ago a car dealership was forced to move to make room for the new BestBuy corporate hq.
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egd

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:44:59 PM
not a good choice
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EZExit

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:44:06 PM
Anyone that has electric, phone, natural gas, etc. service on their property, has an easement for utilities furnished by public and private companies, none owned by the federal or state governments, at least not yet. Just food for thought.
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SparkieMi

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:38:46 PM
I agree with VetteFan....
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:38:45 PM
we need friendly oil from our friends up north
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raj_fl

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Trenton
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:38:04 PM
if one does not want to pay the prices then don't drive trucks and suvs
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raj_fl

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Trenton
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:37:31 PM
its all about greed and profits to feed the fat cats of america
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drobbbb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:37:31 PM
I guess you can use eminent domain if big money is going to make more
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carman11

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:37:22 PM
I bet they have an Indian artifacts on the property that may be threatened by construction of the pipeline or rare birds or something!!
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daquanabe

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:30:03 PM
How in the #%@@ does a foreign company have any right to use eminent domain in the US?
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bevmill

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:29:53 PM
ok
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EZExit

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 8:28:28 PM
Most property owners have utility easements on their property, what makes this case so special? To create a twenty foot wide easement for a pipeline across the property and cry "stealing my land" is over the top and just fodder for the "grenade the US energy industry" movement.
I signed off on a utility easement on my property 8 years ago, it didn't hurt at all, wouldn't even know it was there, everything is buried underneath. Nice try to portray TransCanada as an evil empire.
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