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Energy costs, jet fuel drop combine to close refinery

The News Tribune -- FAIRBANKS -- Decreased jet fuel sales in Anchorage were a secondary factor into the decision to shut down a crude oil refining unit at the North Pole Refinery, which will cost 35 to 40 jobs, according to a spokesman for refinery owner Flint Hills Resources.

Jeff Cook told the Fairbanks Daily News Miner that competitors are able to sell jet fuel cheaper to Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport because it costs them less to produce it.

"We cannot economically compete with refiners who can bring jet fuel into Anchorage refined at other locations with a) cheaper crude, and b) cheaper energy," Cook said.

Besides the job loss, the decision will affect the Alaska Railroad, a spokeswoman said.

Flint Hills sent 36,000 tank cars filled with 800 million gallons of product to Anchorage in it

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Submitted Apr 16, 2012 By: angel4me

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 3:01:45 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse sadly, Alaskans can't afford buying fuel to fly, which there is like buying gas for your car. With few roads, flying is the only transportation unless one counts a several day long sledding expedition to the nearest food seller.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 3:00:21 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse HI: you're right about the problem of competition. However, I found lots of stuff was a lot costlier than on the mainland, but even locally produced items were more costly.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,538 Points:3,081,650 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Apr 17, 2012 3:22:28 PM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse The same problem exists in Hawai'i with milk and eggs. There is something very wrong when a product can be shipped 2000 miles and STILL compete favorably with locally grown products.
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BartBuzz Champion Author Atlanta Posts:8,895 Points:1,777,710 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Apr 17, 2012 4:53:44 AM Ignore BartBuzz Report Abuse More old posts.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,502 Points:1,512,030 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 10:03:10 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse I don't buy it.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,136 Points:1,357,630 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:23:55 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Its a vicious circle & it matters not from what source we get our energy; Unless you generate your own Energy from home. The less we use the more per KWH or $/Gal they charge & the less they pump, refine or the more they Export. We can't beat the system unless Gov intervenes as is their responsibility in these cases. They have to plug the holes in the system. Stop Speculators; Stop export of US energy sources, unless we have a true surplus without importing any petroleum products from OPEC. Also increase pumping oil Including Shale.
menagerie1013 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,365 Points:691,490 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:23:55 PM Ignore menagerie1013 Report Abuse Losing jobs is now fun.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,836 Points:1,432,700 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:14:05 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse jet fuel is just K1 -- straight kerosene.
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:12:58 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse not good news.
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joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,547 Points:1,860,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:09:03 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Ouch, hate to see people loose jobs
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judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,580 Points:2,447,085 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:07:15 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse SHOW ME--at the pump and in lower ticket prices
datapro Sophomore Author Spokane Posts:180 Points:409,745 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:06:44 PM Ignore datapro Report Abuse jet fuel is a lot more expensive than automotive
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kzrooster Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,395 Points:518,700 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:05:15 PM Ignore kzrooster Report Abuse That's sad when they can bring fuel in cheaper than can be refined in state.
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us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,998 Points:1,114,940 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:18:26 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Refineries that run on natural gas pay around $2 per million British thermal units. Flint Hills pays $20 to $21 per million Btu because it does not have an inexpensive and ready supply of natural gas and must instead burn oil, Cook said. Maybe they need Solar and wind on their roofs??? No just sink or swim...
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blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,155 Points:1,885,620 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:14:43 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Sounds like manipulation.
LQQKGAS Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,673 Points:1,197,845 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:14:26 PM Ignore LQQKGAS Report Abuse Big oil is already in govt pockets, greed and corruption at all levels. [Edited by: LQQKGAS at 4/16/2012 11:17:15 PM EST]
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