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Energy Why Lower Natural Gas Prices Help the U.S. Only a Little

Bloomberg Businessweek -- There’s a rule of thumb that says a $10 rise in the price of a barrel of oil reduces gross domestic product growth by anywhere from 0.2 to 0.5 percentage points. Applied over the past six months, when crude prices rose by about $30 from early October to the end of March, that means dearer oil might’ve chewed as much as 1.5 percent out of GDP growth during the last two quarters. Not a trivial amount considering GDP increased 3 percent in the fourth quarter of 2011. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg tend to think the economy grew just 2.2 percent in the first three months of 2012, when the price of gas really took off.

Oil is our economy’s most important raw material. The price of it (and therefore, gasoline) impacts the price of just about everything we buy, from groceries to clothes to app

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sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,561 Points:1,919,985 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:27:42 AM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse Most of the "new" natural gas is being exported!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 2:54:11 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Av_Bob: just can't change the minds of some people. Some are too, ummm.. judge-mental?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 2:52:45 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse TedNC: you're right.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,451 Points:2,230,900 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:08:15 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse bvrbill - "We need to see more natural gas powered vehicles and fueling stations. A Chevy Volt can't move freight. A natural gas powered truck, can." Imagine a semi tractor with a 140-hp electric motor in each of four drive wheels, some batteries and a matched engine/generator with a bit more power than needed to keep a loaded truck moving at 70 mph.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,008 Points:599,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 1:11:32 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,973 Points:2,118,590 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 11:21:19 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Yep, and it seems we are SLOOOOOWWWW to do anything about the abundance!
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letterchunker Champion Author Texas Posts:2,245 Points:667,675 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:48:53 PM Ignore letterchunker Report Abuse ok
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:31:19 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse southrob said, "what would help alot on the gas price would be to drill on federal land" Actually, no it wouldn't. All of this natural gas flooding the market is shale gas which is predominantly found in the eastern U.S. The vast majority of federal land is out west. Don't be greedy. Leave the federal land alone. Leave someplace for our grandchildren to drill.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:28:14 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Once again, judgemobile, there is no switch in the Oval Office that controls fuel prices in this country. If you want to blame someone, go to the source, namely Big Oil.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:25:53 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse I'm intrigued by the idea of natural gas powered 18-wheelers but how big would the fuel tanks have to be? Natural gas requires much larger tanks than those used for diesel. Would that drastically reduce the volume of freight that can be handled per trailer?
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,309 Points:1,644,755 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:05:33 PM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse Really...?
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,547 Points:1,860,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:03:37 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Wish I could afford to convert my vehicle to NG.
rickone All-Star Author Detroit Posts:550 Points:394,410 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:01:52 PM Ignore rickone Report Abuse Interesting - Thanks for posting.
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,229 Points:519,825 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:00:59 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse We need to see more natural gas powered vehicles and fueling stations. A Chevy Volt can't move freight. A natural gas powered truck, can.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:59:23 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Ok
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jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,862 Points:1,614,200 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:55:07 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse The link to the full article is broken. Here is the correct link.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,575 Points:2,446,110 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:54:54 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse prices got down to $ 1.91...when suddenly THEY noticed, and now prices are back near 2.20. Remember at the polls in November under who's watch this suden HIKE happened.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,075 Points:1,733,165 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:52:42 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse I suppose higher prices would help more?
boatmen Champion Author New York Posts:3,085 Points:623,555 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:48:01 PM Ignore boatmen Report Abuse gas to damm high
miiike572 All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:798 Points:526,665 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:47:43 PM Ignore miiike572 Report Abuse ...
DandyDapple All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:715 Points:311,570 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:47:18 PM Ignore DandyDapple Report Abuse OMG 2012 ...
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g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,551 Points:935,620 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:42:32 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse I agree with that whole statement.
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,485 Points:1,231,025 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:41:14 PM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse Yea and our speculators drive it in the ground every day.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:38:21 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse We need to use more natural gas. Chesapeake is leading the way, spending lots of money to innovate new uses for natural gas.
prcoqui Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,960 Points:1,675,150 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:36:39 PM Ignore prcoqui Report Abuse Interesting.
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,303 Points:1,561,240 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:30:03 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Use NG for fixed heating and electric and gas for transportation. We have enough oil for 200 more years right here in the USA....
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clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,583 Points:1,773,845 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:28:18 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Bad link. NG needs infrastructure to become a widely available resource. I hope the suppliers get busy soon. Vehicles will follow. Will speculators ruin this affordable commodity too? Most likely they will.
hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,859 Points:2,266,690 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:24:47 PM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse ok, i know
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us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,998 Points:1,114,340 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:15:00 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Switch all cars and trucks to NG, we only make/have so much money why send it to OPEC????
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,093 Points:1,393,120 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:14:51 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse The link to the full article is broken.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,932 Points:1,576,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:12:18 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse we need to use more natural gas
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southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,605 Points:689,150 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:04:58 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse what would help alot on the gas price would be to drill on federal land
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CHEAPERBETTER Veteran Author Lansing Posts:418 Points:718,610 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 7:58:24 PM Ignore CHEAPERBETTER Report Abuse We have plenty of NG, but not enough capacity to liquify it.
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:6,079 Points:1,671,275 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 7:53:19 PM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse Because we use so little for fueling our vehicles. Need more options for natural gas powered vehicles.
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fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,360 Points:676,040 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 7:45:15 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse ending speculation would help....