CPGas1815

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 2:52:22 AM
It seems battery power seems to be rage these days. But I just have to say what I experienced yesterday.
I was out and about on a day that set a record high temperature for a June 28th. I had several errands to do. As I drove home I was alerted by another driver that my brakes were on fire. Sure enough the calipers seized up. The old Dodge van is now at the shop. Repairs should be done sometime today or early tomorrow.
I so wish I could afford to buy even a reasonably priced used vehicle. Its rough to be poor. A bicycle isn't even a solution due to major back problems.
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dave27johnson

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 4:43:59 PM
Batteries are constantly improving.
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evowner

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Salem
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:46:40 AM
A professor gets an award of $40,000 for maybe creating a new essential electric storage devise. I wonder how much an oil lobbyist would charge to get the funds denied?
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CivicMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:31:08 AM
Now, if we install solar panels and a wind turbine on the roof of the EVs, they can self-charge as they drive! :-)
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:14:47 AM
Sounds like rechargable batteries. Don't I already have one of those in my cell phone?
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Galmar352

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:05:58 AM
Oooooh (SO WHAT)!!
Don't get me wrong. Nice award! But this don't mean anything til it is put into play!!
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smoketown

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:56:26 AM
You rock " YAN WANG "...........
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ramshot412

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:53:11 AM
Good work.
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:51:03 AM
The award should go to the one that will recycle spent fuel rods!!!!!!!!
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AriesMMD

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:43:07 AM
I hope this works out.
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msgt_usa

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:37:45 AM
Wonder if this will go the same way as the Wang computer, lol.
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ciimike

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:36:47 AM
Creativity at its best. Technology comes from innovation and open thinking.
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ScottTee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:35:30 AM
where did the $40,000 award come from?
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condé

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:34:50 AM
Someone invented a battery....WOW!!!
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NanookAK

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:33:15 AM
Did Obama subsidize this? If so, watch out.
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cmsense

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:33:10 AM
Could be a MAJOR game changer for solar/wind energy storage for non-windy,non-sunny days.
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checkum

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:31:11 AM
swell, if you ever want an EV
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WillyG

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:30:56 AM
More bad news for the oil industry. Good !
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Signfool

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:30:52 AM
When they can develop a battery that can last more than 2 days, then I'll take a look.
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CheckitoutGuy

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:30:48 AM
Better batteries have to come along to support all the computer driven new vehicle technology.
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cmsense

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:30:05 AM
Possible applications to EV's??
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briinnc

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:28:52 AM
OK
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:28:10 AM
k
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AuburnTim

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:27:10 AM
k
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crep1291

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:25:09 AM
"Will they lower gas prices?"
That's unlikely. Gas prices are driven by offer and demand. This will make renewable energy more usable and will lower cost of electricity.
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Don20

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:23:23 AM
In a further innovation, the metal particles in Wang's suspensions also serve as the battery's anode and cathode (positive and negative terminals). This simplifies the battery's design, significantly lowering its manufacturing costs and extending its useful life. "Often," Wang said, "up to 50 percent of a battery's volume is packaging and other components. In our design, the metal particles take the place of those components, so the battery can be more compact."
Keep the Research and Development going, and the first thing you know we will something that is useful for these electric vehicles..
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garytave

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:22:36 AM
great stuff!
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syreda

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:21:55 AM
nice..
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amayne11

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:20:26 AM
It takes far too long to charge a battery.
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hwmillerster

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:19:55 AM
This isn't for electric cars, it's meant for stationary wind and solar farms.
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PathTrack

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:19:50 AM
Are batteries really clean energy?
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Gropitou

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:18:45 AM
How much will it weight and cost?
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HATinMUNDY

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:17:41 AM
But will it work?
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Tucker1961

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:15:59 AM
Why? just burn coal to create energy
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bjdorval

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:15:47 AM
I love the professor's name Yan Wang. It's as American as apple pie.
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IMLURCH

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:14:37 AM
Sounds good but will it work in everyday use??????
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olebufnav

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:14:26 AM
See if it works in real cars....
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DimitrisIL

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:11:52 AM
Fantastic. I was sure battery improvement is close.
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pricechecker08

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:11:29 AM
Looks good on paper.
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lightbulbman2008

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:10:57 AM
great...
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orphancarguyPE

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:10:44 AM
For all the naysayers about the future of renewable energy, especially from wind and solar PV/solar thermal turbines, or even about the viability of electric cars, this rather says it all:
"Right now, the ability to store and retrieve energy is the Achilles heel in the world of renewable energy," said Apelian. "By helping to address this challenge, Yan Wang's work will be critical to our nation's wellbeing."
Storage of these intermittent energy sources has always been the weakest link, preventing wider adoption, just because the wind and the sun aren't always there. Similarly, electric vehicles are vastly cheaper to run (a 5 to 1 advantage in most cases, even before fuel car service expenses) and are many times more efficient than any fueled vehicle, but just the problem of usable daily range and charge time to improve. Quick charge improvement are coming on stream, slashing charging time from 10 hours down to much less than an hour in some cases, with wireless induction charging of improved batteries as an example. Park your car, pay a dollar for about 12 kilowatts of electricity, go shopping and come back later with the batteries recharged, and you are good for another 35 miles. Does your current gasoline car get well over 100 mpg at $3.xx per gallon? Electric cars ARE that cheap to run. Its only the batteries that are so expensive. If you can make better batteries that can hold more charge, or be charged quicker, then you don't need as many expensive batteries to get the same range.
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WeasleyOC

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:10:42 AM
Hope it can be applied too commercial applications too.
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Ken2OD

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:10:32 AM
Wow! That amount of money is not even worth the cost of one new job.
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:09:30 AM
china will sell these for about half the price and better quality too probably
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ntass1

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:09:21 AM
long term remedy
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miser709

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:07:59 AM
Electric cars are not the answer. It will just make electric unaffordable.
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RobertSpratt

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:05:30 AM
$40,000. That won't last long. Take money from the bird droppings study for this. Something worthwhile.
[Edited by: RobertSpratt at 6/28/2012 11:06:30 AM EST]
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Edamon

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:04:32 AM
Keep R&D
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Chrys778

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:03:14 AM
I wish they would make up their mind
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snakebitef22

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Corpus Christi
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:02:39 AM
Electric cars are here to stay now...
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