DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:57:32 AM
I'd say the hassle factor keeps people from pursuing the installation too.
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dsaine

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 5:07:50 AM
Interesting.
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cashpayer

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:56:30 PM
Interesting... Never really considered it before.
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miser709

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:31:04 PM
I must be in the 3% as I never gave installing solar any thought.
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goldentoe

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:24:00 PM
I installed two different solar systems on my house. The first about 15 years ago to heat our water - free hot water all summer long. The storage tank can attain about 170 degrees. The second was a photovoltaic system in Oct. 2010. It supplies about 20% of our annual electricity (all electric house). After all of the rebates and tax credits, the net cost is $427, that's right, $427! Sometime this summer I will have generated enough electricity with the system back to the grid to cover the cost of the system. Why not change all building codes for all homes costing (pick a number), let's say $500,000 or more must have solar. For me, it was a no-brainer.
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gasgo123

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:23:18 PM
I installed a solar water heater about 1980 when they had a big tax credit but when it started leaking, the tank, the cheapest tank was about $1250 and a tree branch broke the glass in the panel which would about another $1000 not including installation, so I spent $300 for a gas water heater and I do not have worry about if the sun shines to keep from running out of hot water.
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Tucker1961

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:20:54 PM
sure
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CarolinaBlue150

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:20:06 PM
Not a big fan of leasing. What happens if you want to sell your home and no one wants to assume your lease?
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:19:49 PM
How about install and stop getting ripped off by you loal power company, tedjm1?
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1cheapgasin

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:19:34 PM
WOW
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:19:12 PM
Go go go and do it.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:18:52 PM
Just to clarify, bl626. You don't need batteries for a solar installation if you're hooking the system up to the power grid. Your appliances will run off solar during the day (and any excess power will be sold back to the power company by running your meter backwards) and at night the power company will handle your electricity needs.
Batteries are only needed if you plan to have your house off the grid. Usually that only makes sense if your place is far from any electrical transmission wires since you'd have to pay out of pocket to have the wires extended to your house.
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Bigwaynef

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:18:05 PM
More like 97% plus 1...
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:17:12 PM
Install and go to the poor house.
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baconnie

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:15:27 PM
might have to go solar
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:14:37 PM
That may well be true, AGasGuzzler. But what you don't factor in is that rooftop solar generally makes your roof last longer since the solar modules absorb all that sunlight and UV rays that cause your roof to degrade over time.
The best situation is to install solar at the same time as when you have a new roof done. The added expense will definitely pay for itself.
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jkpsr

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:14:14 PM
Bring on more solar!
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yakstar

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:13:45 PM
you learn something every day!!!
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letmathe

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:13:41 PM
Thanks to several posters for sharing information and experience.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:11:05 PM
Thank you,orphancarguyPE , for the solar lesson. I would say that for those who are leary about taking the plunge fully into solar. Try the solar thermal system first. No electricity is produced but lots of hot water for showers. In the summer, your water heater will never go on during the day and even in the winter you will save a lot of fuel since you won't have to heat the water from nearly freezing to a comfortable temp. The sun will do at least half the work.
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AGasGuzzler

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:10:40 PM
It is also not very well known that solar panels get VERY HOT -- up to 200+ degrees. If you are installing it on a metal roof or clay tile, the heat will not be as much of a factor as if you installed it on an asphalt or shingled roof. The fiberglass shingles are not designed for that kind of heat, and you will rue the day that you tried to "go solar".
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hank1326

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:09:45 PM
Give it to me for free. I will be gladly to take it.
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:08:53 PM
According to the article, my cost would be about the same!
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:07:37 PM
guess that makes me a 3 %--er.
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ratboy1968

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:07:00 PM
ok
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gus8441

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:06:59 PM
better to over than under estimate
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rawdog1313

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:06:50 PM
Well, advertise the cost, make it affordable and it will happen.....!
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bvrbill

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Eugene
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:06:46 PM
It's worth considering. Will our government give us a tax credit for installing solar panels?
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TheSicilian

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:06:21 PM
not surprised
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vegboy

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:05:22 PM
im not surprised
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bl626

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:05:10 PM
the main problem is how to store energy, need batteries that cost lots of $$$
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:04:46 PM
Could be...
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CDMAuto

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:04:16 PM
ok
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visitor_2

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:03:00 PM
sounds like a marketing problem
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:02:47 PM
Go with clean solar energy!
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rickone

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 9:02:29 PM
Interesting - Thanks for posting.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:59:21 PM
Can't beat that Joeski. Great news. It is quite nice to see that electric meter going in reverse!
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:57:37 PM
Incorrect boatmen. If you own a home, it is definitely not "out of reach". If you don't own a home, you don't need it. A significant milestone was met last year, as the cost of installation labor is now the greatest expense in an active solar system on a residential home. Panel prices are still dropping too. Payback time is now as low as 5 years. Try a passive solar system for your hot water and heating needs as an even better investment on your home!
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:56:15 PM
so tell me: IS IT FREE ???? I do not overestimate above ZERO.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:53:04 PM
I wonder why?
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cmsense

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:52:27 PM
R&D will continue to improve the efficiency and lower the price.
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boatmen

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:49:07 PM
It is coming down in price still out of reach for most
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DandyDapple

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North Dakota
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:48:56 PM
You have to be in the right areas to make it viable ...
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miiike572

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:48:24 PM
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g747

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:43:55 PM
There should be more information on the product pricing,labor,transportatiion.
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silverfoxv65

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:43:07 PM
Its better than under estimating!
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sammy518

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Austin
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:42:38 PM
something is actually cheaper than we think, finally!
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:41:15 PM
They may overestimate, but I'll bet it still is more of a monetary/time commitment than most homeowners want to make.
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txkrb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:38:53 PM
Solar may be a viable alternative in the future, however with the cost today most people would never recover the initial cost through savings However in Louisiana there are substantial credits in addition to the federal credit which bring the cost down considerably
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min_fuel

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:37:49 PM
Fuel prices? It is expensive ti install Solar. The panels are mainly from Germany and China.
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