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JT Moderator	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2010 9:01:00 PM Ignore JT Report Abuse Pure gas without ethanol is getting increasingly hard to find. How much extra would you be willing to pay for ethanol-free (E0) gasoline compared to E10 if it was available to you? I would not pay extra Less than 4¢/gallon or 1¢/litre 4-8¢/gallon or 1-2¢/litre 8-16¢/gallon or 2-4¢/litre 16-24¢/gallon or 4-6¢/litre More than 24¢/gallon or 6¢/litre NA / I don’t buy gasoline Post your thoughts about this poll below.

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Pure gas without ethanol is getting increasingly hard to find. How much extra would you be willing to pay for ethanol-free (E0) gasoline compared to E10 if it was available to you?
I would not pay extra
Less than 4¢/gallon or 1¢/litre
4-8¢/gallon or 1-2¢/litre
8-16¢/gallon or 2-4¢/litre
16-24¢/gallon or 4-6¢/litre
More than 24¢/gallon or 6¢/litre
NA / I don’t buy gasoline

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wdollarma51 Rookie Author Kentucky Posts:4 Points:12,345 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 4:18:10 PM Ignore wdollarma51 Report Abuse would not pay more since oil company makes more then we even knows
BacknForthAL Veteran Author Alabama Posts:288 Points:176,105 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:50:23 PM Ignore BacknForthAL Report Abuse I will not pay extra.
Muradia Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,399 Points:1,383,405 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:46:57 PM Ignore Muradia Report Abuse Not willing to pay more.
Krisket Champion Author Washington DC Posts:4,782 Points:443,365 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:11:47 PM Ignore Krisket Report Abuse Not willing to pay more.
TINTIST Rookie Author Albuquerque Posts:16 Points:61,945 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 1:40:36 PM Ignore TINTIST Report Abuse Doesn't it cost more to put ethanol in fuel in the first place? If so, why would you have to pay more for non-E Fuel. Why not just make cleaner engines and do away with ethanol all together. I suppose that's not going to happen because it would kill the farming industry.
shel1942 Rookie Author Michigan Posts:64 Points:371,005 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 1:25:34 PM Ignore shel1942 Report Abuse Don't you want to stop pollution? Of course we do. But government regulation or control is the worst way to solve any problem. Protect a fish, but destroy agriculture (CA). Conduct a study to find a way to stop a foreign (non-North American) fish from invading the Great Lakes and take so much time doing it that native species will be wiped out. Oil rig blows up so take a couple of months and lie a lot before really trying to contain the oil and stop the leak, mean while refuse to accept anybody's help, ESPECIALLY US citizens. Now they are going to increase the ethanol content. Gee, we are so grateful - NOT!!! Almost tempted to convert to steam or get a horse. [Edited by: shel1942 at 10/20/2010 4:26:47 PM EST]
Smarty09 Rookie Author Vancouver Posts:26 Points:162,570 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 1:11:18 PM Ignore Smarty09 Report Abuse I feel we should pay LESS for E10, as that has less gas in it; ruins your engine; and decreases your mileage/fuel efficiency. I would much rather buy fuel with no ethanol, which will last me longer and not ruin my car. But yes, since it's not a perfect world, I would be willing to pay a bit more for E0.
Steve_in_BR Rookie Author Louisiana Posts:33 Points:15,960 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 12:34:44 PM Ignore Steve_in_BR Report Abuse As my college roommate and present-day chemistry professor said, "Ethanol is just grain alcohol, and that's for drinking; it's not stuff for your gas tank.
kino10 Champion Author California Posts:2,253 Points:123,015 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 12:13:25 PM Ignore kino10 Report Abuse I would not pay extra for pure gas nor gas with corn. (up the price of groceries why?) [Edited by: kino10 at 10/20/2010 3:22:19 PM EST]
grampsguy Sophomore Author Pennsylvania Posts:181 Points:263,035 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 11:54:12 AM Ignore grampsguy Report Abuse I would not pay extra
wildredbill Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:3,907 Points:564,115 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 11:31:50 AM Ignore wildredbill Report Abuse Because 10% corn ethanol costs us from 1 to 2 miles per gallon, I would pay more for 100% gasoline. At most 15 cents per gallon. Make ethanol but not using a food product.
TornadoRed Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,823 Points:707,675 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 11:30:31 AM Ignore TornadoRed Report Abuse The wholesale price for ethanol has risen from about $1.50/gallon in mid-summer, to around $2.25/gallon today; this is because corn prices have risen by about the same percentage. Ethanol was cheaper than regular unleaded gasoline a few months ago, but now it is about 20 cents more per gallon. So for many reasons the increased use of ethanol should not be encouraged. The one other big reason, of course, is that increased ethanol production results in higher food costs -- a very big deal in many parts of the Third World.
01DodgeRam1500 Rookie Author Portland Posts:18 Points:315,885 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 11:25:18 AM Ignore 01DodgeRam1500 Report Abuse If you take the subsidies off the ethanol all E-05 and higher would be $4.00 a gallon or more so if you take the ethanol out of the fuel it would be cheaper at the pump. Also one of the other posts made reference to there vehicle I to agree with them in my car and truck get's around 5 and 10 miles per gallon less with the E-10 than with straight gas.
rayk Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,106 Points:1,245,080 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 11:11:22 AM Ignore rayk Report Abuse My boat requires E0. I will pay whatever to get it.
sunshine0930 Rookie Author Fort Worth Posts:10 Points:3,300 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:27:05 AM Ignore sunshine0930 Report Abuse I am all for pure gas. I get much better gas mileage with my vehicle when I am using straight gas. The E10 gives me about 20 mile per gallon. Straight gas gives me 25 to 26 miles to gallon. Highway mileage. That's an extra 5 or 6 miles. It's worth an extra 4 cents.
daylily2009 Champion Author Fayetteville Posts:1,398 Points:633,495 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:26:39 AM Ignore daylily2009 Report Abuse not a penny more in fact i do not buy anything but pure stuff!!!!
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,449 Points:1,738,915 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:18:31 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse I've burned nothing but E10 in my gasoline cars for the past 20 years. I have never had a fuel problem. E10 also saves you the hastle of adding "Heat" in the winter time. It's already in the fuel, so that will takes care of any water. One of my cars (1990 Daytona Shelby) runs BETTER on the higher octain E10 (90 Octain), than on straight gas (87 octain). I've been tempted to mix in some E-85 (105 Octain). But I haven't done that yet. Glad to see most people on this sight don't believe straight gas is worth paying any extra for. [Edited by: RochBear at 10/20/2010 1:20:32 PM EST]
bja0030 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:3,194 Points:535,930 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 8:35:52 AM Ignore bja0030 Report Abuse yes
KCK8 Champion Author Kansas Posts:6,544 Points:218,150 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 8:24:28 AM Ignore KCK8 Report Abuse No more than E10.
Peebo Veteran Author Baltimore Posts:385 Points:1,504,890 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 7:45:08 AM Ignore Peebo Report Abuse Nothing extra.
Lasing Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:14,187 Points:2,303,375 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 5:54:33 AM Ignore Lasing Report Abuse Having an oil reserve is a good thing. That is for national and economic security, not cheaper prices. What if they stop shipping the oil we depend on across the pond, and we don't have a back-up plan? So many people on these forums constantly say they don't like ethanol, and complain about how bad it for maintenance and MPG, yet most vote they would not pay a couple pennies for getter gas? Whats up with that?
OzManGasMan Veteran Author Detroit Posts:457 Points:411,510 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 5:24:47 AM Ignore OzManGasMan Report Abuse Personally, I would pay 50 cents a gallon more if we stopped importing all foreign oil and used some of the trillions of gallons of oil we (the USA) have right here in our own country. I have never understood why some think it is a good deal for our planet’s environment as long as the oil derrick is on the other side of the globe and not here at home. Stop and think about it, if we stopped using corn in our fuel the price of food would go down because animal feed would be cheaper so we would break even in the long run. Now if we wanted to really bring down the price of gas just get rid of the multiple taxes that are added to each gallon by the government.
Retha09 Rookie Author Michigan Posts:15 Points:119,815 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 4:38:44 AM Ignore Retha09 Report Abuse I would not pay extra. Simply because...with all the involuntary "up-charges" we have to put up with for many other things, I certainly am not going to voluntarily "up-charge" myself. If my car doesn't have a problem with the "cheaper stuff", neither do I. [Edited by: Retha09 at 10/20/2010 7:39:22 AM EST]
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:13,530 Points:2,713,775 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 4:07:40 AM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse I would not pay extra.
pkhdonovan Champion Author Maine Posts:11,986 Points:2,700,830 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 3:34:04 AM Ignore pkhdonovan Report Abuse I wouldn't mind a few cents more, but I want a choice.
Ziggy1962 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,719 Points:1,806,785 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:49:06 AM Ignore Ziggy1962 Report Abuse I would not pay extra.
iige Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:11,599 Points:2,491,415 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:43:12 AM Ignore iige Report Abuse E0 provides 5-10% increase in mileage (more energy content). It should be worth at least 5% more for that reason alone (=10-15c per gallon). Certainly curious that we are heavily subsidizing a fuel (ethanol) that is less efficient.
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,063 Points:2,547,005 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:25:45 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse I would not pay extra
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,063 Points:2,547,005 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 2:25:37 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse I would not pay extra
mrblkdetroit Rookie Author Detroit Posts:55 Points:96,355 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 11:00:50 PM Ignore mrblkdetroit Report Abuse doubt i'd notice the difference
steve96d Veteran Author Philadelphia Posts:353 Points:883,110 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 10:54:26 PM Ignore steve96d Report Abuse I would not pay extra. I most likely wouldn't notice.
M24KT Rookie Author South Carolina Posts:2 Points:1,140 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 10:12:01 PM Ignore M24KT Report Abuse PAY LESS FOR GAS AND MUCH LESS FOR E10!
GDJ Rookie Author Edmonton Posts:80 Points:24,160 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 9:30:24 PM Ignore GDJ Report Abuse Personally I lose about 10% when I use E10 90 octane in my car, but the E0 91 octane (premium) does run so much better and about 10% more efficiently. Unfortunately, the increase in efficiency with E0 Premium doesn't quite match the $$ savings of E10 90 octane with the 10% loss of efficiency.BUT, I could stand to pay 1 to 2¢ a litre more for the pure E0 fuel. That kind of price increase doesn't even put a dent in my finances.
GrumpyCat Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,591 Points:786,615 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 8:45:20 PM Ignore GrumpyCat Report Abuse To know whether E10 is hurting the way your vehicle runs one must try E0. A big problem where stations are required to label if ethanol may be present is that the label only states, "may contain up to 10% ethanol" which means it might be E0. So using this fuel one can not state, "My car runs just fine on E10" because you don't now when you are buying E10.
ACTown Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,346 Points:1,426,985 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 7:31:19 PM Ignore ACTown Report Abuse It is not any expensive, so why pay more?
Dale Jag All-Star Author Riverside Posts:674 Points:1,791,160 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 7:10:26 PM Ignore Dale Jag Report Abuse It's interesting that 61% of the people here won't pay more for real gas, while 98% complain about ethanol. Personally I don't see much difference between the two on my car. But I do like the fact we are less held to OPEC. More US jobs and less money running out of the country. My next car will be electric and charged by solar. Even if the panels are bought from another country, that's a mere pittance of the amount of oil that would be bought for a gas car. Solar here, windmills now! The future is in alternative energy not OIL. Support the Picken's Plan NOW!
bigcaddy Rookie Author KW Posts:2 Points:13,190 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 7:04:05 PM Ignore bigcaddy Report Abuse Maybe a few cents more, for the mileage. E10 fuel seems like an all around bad idea for consumers in my mind, just creates higher costs for us because we're being "Environmentally Friendly."
1madashell Veteran Author Wisconsin Posts:367 Points:1,639,055 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 6:51:42 PM Ignore 1madashell Report Abuse Lots of ignorant people not willing to pay a few cents extra for a far superior product. For an extra 5 cents per gallon, I get 2.5 times my money back in better mileage guaranteed. Try to get that return in the stock market.
RxHugh Champion Author Greensboro Posts:7,582 Points:1,569,960 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 6:28:01 PM Ignore RxHugh Report Abuse I would not pay extra
andy703 Rookie Author Chicago Posts:39 Points:553,110 Joined:Dec 2001	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:29:42 PM Ignore andy703 Report Abuse Paying a little extra would be worth it because PURE gasoline gets better fuel economy!!
zacksnanny Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:1,631 Points:2,198,960 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:12:04 PM Ignore zacksnanny Report Abuse I would not pay more.
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:7,379 Points:1,859,605 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:52:56 PM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse Yes you are outThere.
bobbyd28 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,042 Points:131,835 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:29:52 PM Ignore bobbyd28 Report Abuse why should i pay more when im paying more now
OutThere Champion Author Denver Posts:3,966 Points:1,100,385 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:26:32 PM Ignore OutThere Report Abuse It's not paying more that's a problem for me, it's that the extra money goes into Osama bin Laden's pocket.
pkhdonovan Champion Author Maine Posts:11,986 Points:2,700,830 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 2:53:23 PM Ignore pkhdonovan Report Abuse a few cents more
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,729 Points:1,905,335 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 2:25:25 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Since pure gasoline would give improved gas mileage, it would be worth more!
PhilE3 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,258 Points:306,550 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 2:00:38 PM Ignore PhilE3 Report Abuse Again. Nothing.
Tatalah Champion Author Riverside Posts:11,590 Points:2,459,120 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 1:55:49 PM Ignore Tatalah Report Abuse USNDVR You will notice that several of these "garbage" posters have done it several times.
NormanCutie09 Rookie Author Oklahoma City Posts:1 Points:14,895 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 1:51:16 PM Ignore NormanCutie09 Report Abuse I am shocked at the polster's that refuse to pay a little extra for ethanol-free fuel. Obviously, they have not calculated the extra cost for gasoline with ethanol. My vehicle averages about 17 miles per gallon with ethanol free gas or 15.5 MPG with e-10 fuel. In a 20 gallon tank using ethanol fuel, this will reduce my total miles driven by 30 miles. Averaging 15 miles per gallon that would cost an extra two gallons of gas or about $5.00. So, as long as the ethanol free gas does not cost more than 25 cents more per gallon, it is CHEAPER to use ethanol free fuel. Also, this reduces corn usage and reduces food costs. It is a no brainer.
oobloob Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,475 Points:1,444,710 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 1:41:07 PM Ignore oobloob Report Abuse Not willing to pay anything more.
Tatalah Champion Author Riverside Posts:11,590 Points:2,459,120 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 1:38:09 PM Ignore Tatalah Report Abuse "I wouldnt" is posted by people for points. They probably are not aware that they can post nothingness for points in the just for fun section. They therefore, rudely, waste everybody's time reading nothing.