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JT Moderator	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 9:01:00 PM Ignore JT Report Abuse Should the 1,700-mile Keystone XL pipeline, as proposed by TransCanada Corp., be built? Which answer most closely reflects your opinion? Yes, as originally proposed Yes, but following a different route Yes, but with some other conditions No, there is too much risk of leaks and pollution No, Canadians should build their own refinery No, the tar sands oil is not worth extracti Post your thoughts about this poll below.

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Should the 1,700-mile Keystone XL pipeline, as proposed by TransCanada Corp., be built? Which answer most closely reflects your opinion?
Yes, as originally proposed
Yes, but following a different route
Yes, but with some other conditions
No, there is too much risk of leaks and pollution
No, Canadians should build their own refinery
No, the tar sands oil is not worth extracti
Post your thoughts about this poll below.

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rjr54 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:1,115 Points:395,370 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:59:00 PM Ignore rjr54 Report Abuse The eastern provinces are like the Americans, they don't want Canadian oil.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 9:09:56 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse Wouldn't a pipeline to the east coast make more sense, so Canadian refineries could use less imported oil?
rjr54 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:1,115 Points:395,370 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:16:41 AM Ignore rjr54 Report Abuse No. I don't think the USA actually wants Canadian crude oil. I think Canada should build the Northern Gateway pipeline instead so the construction jobs stay here. And then sell our crude to China; they definitely want it.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2013 3:48:40 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse What makes you think that the little bit that hasn't been approved will do anything to help the economy or jobs?
kglazier67 Rookie Author Illinois Posts:2 Points:555,880 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:48:43 PM Ignore kglazier67 Report Abuse Yes, as originally proposed. Come Obama - let it be built to help the economy and jobs situation!
sonicmustang All-Star Author Alberta Posts:637 Points:149,375 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 4:22:25 AM Ignore sonicmustang Report Abuse Yes, as originally proposed
achung53 Veteran Author Orange County Posts:487 Points:85,225 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 9:54:51 AM Ignore achung53 Report Abuse Yes, as originally proposed
Minka12 Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:1 Points:600 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2012 10:49:37 PM Ignore Minka12 Report Abuse as originally proposed
bill294 All-Star Author Chicago Posts:565 Points:384,700 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 28, 2012 5:09:18 AM Ignore bill294 Report Abuse Yes, as orginally proposed
pricewar Champion Author Ogden Posts:2,080 Points:302,715 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Sep 28, 2012 1:09:17 AM Ignore pricewar Report Abuse ok
fhnorth Sophomore Author Nevada Posts:129 Points:26,590 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 9:20:05 PM Ignore fhnorth Report Abuse Yes, but with some other conditions
gizmojoe Sophomore Author Ontario Posts:215 Points:278,355 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 7:20:22 PM Ignore gizmojoe Report Abuse Yes, yes, yes!!
ggg452 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,713 Points:360,460 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2012 9:02:42 AM Ignore ggg452 Report Abuse ok
Ferdman17 Champion Author Albany Posts:1,430 Points:402,985 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 2:31:25 PM Ignore Ferdman17 Report Abuse Yes, as originally proposed
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 12, 2012 9:11:13 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse Why build it? It would only create a few jobs. And most of the energy will be exported.
gaspumpin Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,792 Points:416,695 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Aug 12, 2012 11:18:19 AM Ignore gaspumpin Report Abuse YES! Build it! Jobs, jobs, jobs. Energy, energy, energy.
s90201 Rookie Author Long Island Posts:57 Points:17,215 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 7:25:36 AM Ignore s90201 Report Abuse Yes it should be built, it would be a good thing for the country
Sumflow Rookie Author Honolulu Posts:65 Points:400 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 3:35:43 AM Ignore Sumflow Report Abuse Pipeline is OK, route is not. Why not run next to existing line? The only reason they want to go border to border is to take advantage of Texas tax treatments. Give them the special tax up north and refine it up there.
twopairAL All-Star Author Huntsville Posts:587 Points:128,610 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 11, 2012 11:06:33 AM Ignore twopairAL Report Abuse One: it will put people to work two: it will get them off unemployment and it will help put money back into the tax system
Summerwine Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:9 Points:1,460 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 8:07:17 AM Ignore Summerwine Report Abuse Yes, as originally proposed
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 10:01:58 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse NO IT SHOULDN'T
HFAJR0034 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:6,611 Points:1,195,460 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 18, 2012 4:02:39 AM Ignore HFAJR0034 Report Abuse YES IT SHOULD
crazy49920 Rookie Author Green Bay Posts:1 Points:220 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 12:46:24 PM Ignore crazy49920 Report Abuse judging from what i read the only reason the pipeline is considered for the u.s. is because canadians wont allow the pipeline to be built in their own country and it wont lower gas prices at all were using less gas now than 4 or 5 years ago the refineries are selling the excess gas they make to other country's right now as i see it the speculators are the ones making the price go up i think the best way to control the oil market is to take it off the market and make it a law that only the oil refineries can buy crude oil not the big money banks keeping the price as high as it is
MOPARTECH Rookie Author North Carolina Posts:8 Points:1,075 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 8:10:18 PM Ignore MOPARTECH Report Abuse YES it should. it will provide jobs for americans.
Mekuru Rookie Author West Virginia Posts:11 Points:83,650 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 10, 2012 12:21:29 PM Ignore Mekuru Report Abuse i dont know enough to decide correctly
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2012 9:12:53 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse gmac718 - "How can have more oil moved from Canada and North Dakota cause gas prices to raise as it would bring more gas and oil to the refineries which would produce more product cause prices to raise?" 1) Those refineries are already producing more product than we're using, which is why they're exporting more product to other countries. 2) If you get Canadian crude down where the crude itself can be exported, the refineries everywhere will have to pay world market prices for it, not domestic market prices. That, in and of itself, is projected to increase the price of gas in the Midwest by about 20¢ a gallon.
gemarti Rookie Author Quad Cities Posts:29 Points:2,480 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2012 7:25:01 PM Ignore gemarti Report Abuse I have read articles which say that the tar sand pipeline would not effect prices in the United States. The refineries in the US would refine the product and then pedal it on the world market at currect cartel and Wall Street controlled prices. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the paragraph above but I did read it in a credible auto magazine. Anyway, if it were built, I think they should reroute it to avoid the large acquifers in Nebraska, South Dakota, etc. I don't expect it to lower the prices much at all. We could dump half of the strategic reserve onto the market and the stock market would move upward for a time and the gas prices might drop 5 or 10 cents a gallon until the excess was gone but that would be about it. We have to find an alternative source of engergy and I don't know why we don'g to with natural gas which can be held in liquid form under pressure. There would be a drop in fuel efficiency but it would be worth it.
boops54 Rookie Author Illinois Posts:51 Points:33,970 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2012 5:43:53 PM Ignore boops54 Report Abuse Yes, with conditions
gmac718 Rookie Author Iowa Posts:1 Points:1,320 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 7:43:08 AM Ignore gmac718 Report Abuse How can have more oil moved from Canada and North Dakota cause gas prices to raise as it would bring more gas and oil to the refineries which would produce more product cause prices to raise? Build the pipe line as the controls are outstanding for the pipelines and I say build it as was planed we have more oil than the Arabs if they will let us get it out of the ground
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 5:24:48 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse Why raise gas prices by building this pipeline?
DutchTreatMI Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,446 Points:779,915 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:17:30 AM Ignore DutchTreatMI Report Abuse Yes the Keystone XL Pipeline should be built.
DutchTreatMI Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,446 Points:779,915 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:17:29 AM Ignore DutchTreatMI Report Abuse Yes the Keystone XL Pipeline should be built.
Daveon1946 Rookie Author British Columbia Posts:16 Points:1,190 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 1:43:04 PM Ignore Daveon1946 Report Abuse yes, go for it
AriesMMD Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,571 Points:437,215 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 8:53:20 AM Ignore AriesMMD Report Abuse Just Do It
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 8:29:18 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse scampster - "Yes, but modify the route, or construction of such to negate risks - we need jobs and the other benefits of such would help too." The few jobs created by this will have no discernable effect on employment in this country. And what other benefits? Higher gas prices? More profits for the oil companies?
HFAJR0034 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:6,611 Points:1,195,460 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 4:26:22 AM Ignore HFAJR0034 Report Abuse yes as oringinally proposed.
HFAJR0034 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:6,611 Points:1,195,460 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 4:26:12 AM Ignore HFAJR0034 Report Abuse yes as oringinally proposed.
HFAJR0034 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:6,611 Points:1,195,460 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 4:26:03 AM Ignore HFAJR0034 Report Abuse yes as oringinally proposed.
scampster Rookie Author Illinois Posts:53 Points:2,910 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 22, 2012 6:22:40 PM Ignore scampster Report Abuse Yes, but modify the route, or construction of such to negate risks - we need jobs and the other benefits of such would help too. Nothing will happen soon though even if kept everything as in the original route proposed. Do it under the best plan in a short period of time if possible. One need only look to NASA and the Space Shuttle program for what happens if government allows companies to cut corners for the sake of progress faster. Most notable the Challenger under the Reagan administration. I never understood why it took off that cold day, had looked at Good Morning America and heard there would be yet another weather delay, and next I know hours later I hear it blew up. To me the biggest shock ever of something like that happening and end of age of my generation that the USA could do all things good and progress fast. Having not long before that been on a tour of the Kennedy Space Center - and recent opening of EPCOT Center at Disney World - both of which promised we could do space often and fast for a bright future. The Universe of Energy sponsored by Exxon at the time was the most notable of several space shuttle messages presented at EPCOT Center.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:54:58 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse Randy1123CA - "We are idiots if we don't do this" Considering how much misinformation, disinformation and outright lies we're being fed about this, we're probably idiots if we do do this.
Randy1123CA Rookie Author Orange County Posts:9 Points:1,040 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:28:27 AM Ignore Randy1123CA Report Abuse We are idiots if we don't do this
rjr54 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:1,115 Points:395,370 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 4:28:13 AM Ignore rjr54 Report Abuse To AndrewIN, re: YES!! It will create jobs and help us secure a semi-domestic source of oil. I hate to break this to you, but this is a foreign source of oil. We are on a little better speaking terms with you than say, Iran is with USA. But we are still a separate country.
pianomanNE Rookie Author Nebraska Posts:3 Points:371,860 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 18, 2012 8:47:45 AM Ignore pianomanNE Report Abuse As a Nebraskan, I am concerned about impact on the Ogallala aquifer. Since Kestone agreed to move the pipe to the eastern edge of the aquifer, I have fewer reservations than before. The water in the aquifer moves west to east, i believe, and penetration of the aquifer by cride oil is unlikely. So, on balance, I would rather see Canadian oil added to world supplies than Middle eastern oil. Who knows for sure how this will turn out? We hope for the best.
jep39 Champion Author California Posts:1,182 Points:1,249,760 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2012 11:05:06 AM Ignore jep39 Report Abuse If it is built, it will create some job but where will workers come from.
ltalbott2012 Rookie Author Michigan Posts:3 Points:410 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2012 3:13:43 PM Ignore ltalbott2012 Report Abuse No matter how much gas comes out of the end of that pipe we'll never see lower gas prices. We will need many more holes in the ground than that! [Edited by: ltalbott2012 at 2/14/2012 6:14:44 PM EST]
snowmoose Rookie Author Montreal Posts:17 Points:219,440 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2012 8:57:54 AM Ignore snowmoose Report Abuse Yes, but it should follow a different route, some of the grasslands and small natural lakes would be disturbed if they stuck to the original plan, there are other options.
samtrans Rookie Author Ottawa Posts:3 Points:7,490 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2012 12:37:08 PM Ignore samtrans Report Abuse wow I don't see many posts from Canadians? When politics are involved who know what's really going on... I do agree that this pipeline will not benefit the consumer, our government just wants a piece of the pie that is mostly given to the unethical oil barons of the east and their gold plated sports car while their women are treated like live stock. I honestly would love to see how well they would do selling sand instead of oil. I'm sick and tired of being held hostage by these people, we need oil plain and simple and I would love to buy it only from an ethical country, a country who treats all of their people with respect and dignity. So in the end I'm not sure if this pipeline will create jobs or lower the cost or harm mother nature but we need to stop funding their way of life because I am sure of who is harmed and how, when we buy it from the east.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2012 12:02:32 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse AndrewIN - "YES!! It will create jobs and help us secure a semi-domestic source of oil." It will increase the price of gas in Indianapolis by about 20¢ a gallon.
AndrewIN Rookie Author Indianapolis Posts:5 Points:430,450 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2012 6:36:22 AM Ignore AndrewIN Report Abuse YES!! It will create jobs and help us secure a semi-domestic source of oil.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,614 Points:2,257,260 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2012 1:31:02 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse The few jobs this creates will mostly be temporary and insignificant to the economy. The pipeline is going to be built mostly with foreign (mostly Chinese) materials. The products refined from this oil will mostly be sold overseas. There's no benefit to the US in this project.