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CA Energy Schemes: ‘We are getting fleeced’

Cal Watchdog -- The California Air Resources Board has created a stealthy new corporation in Delaware. The Western Climate Initiative Inc., which will manage cap-and-trade programs, even has its own form of currency.
“CARB is creating a whole new currency with these pollution certificates,” explained Assemblywoman Diane Harkey, R-Dana Point. “Initially the state was to unite with other Western states to reduce the purported menace to the future of our planet,” Harkey said.

Harkey has been trying to get her legislative colleagues to understand that the “fix,” setting a goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels, with increasing population on the horizon, “is guaranteed to cost employers and everyday people more for the electricity and products they need. California’s only remaining partner is

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Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:15,747 Points:3,006,920 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 5:24:50 PM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse The rich just want to get richer with our money! Price fixing etc!
netman044 Champion Author Texas Posts:6,848 Points:1,288,275 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 5:23:21 PM Ignore netman044 Report Abuse Need to find a way to confine CARB, it's rules and regulations to California. After all is is the California Air Resources Board not the U.S. Air Resources Board.
Yonkers111 Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,331 Points:857,085 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 5:22:29 PM Ignore Yonkers111 Report Abuse Just take out the ethanol.
vroomputtputt Veteran Author Oregon Posts:275 Points:62,785 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 5:20:28 PM Ignore vroomputtputt Report Abuse Im sure theres alot more to this story.
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bonbon5 Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,975 Points:528,000 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:55:45 PM Ignore bonbon5 Report Abuse Really?
geepy All-Star Author Long Island Posts:779 Points:521,595 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:55:06 PM Ignore geepy Report Abuse why are politicians being so sneaky
Hop1LA Champion Author Baton Rouge Posts:3,309 Points:1,175,520 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:54:43 PM Ignore Hop1LA Report Abuse No kidding?
pnivens Veteran Author Georgia Posts:426 Points:436,515 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:52:40 PM Ignore pnivens Report Abuse California has made its bed by overtaxing and liberal over-regulation of everything thing within its borders.
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:8,361 Points:2,511,425 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:51:02 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse more hog wash
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:8,066 Points:2,133,145 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:48:43 PM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse Delaware doesn't have the same regulations as to what is needed that is why basement, backroom and boilerroom buisiness love to have there addresses there.
flatrock14 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,645 Points:775,805 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:47:39 PM Ignore flatrock14 Report Abuse another cost?
Louscanon Champion Author Baltimore Posts:13,845 Points:2,765,590 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:45:42 PM Ignore Louscanon Report Abuse When a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized.
f250dieselrat All-Star Author Florida Posts:671 Points:288,395 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:45:23 PM Ignore f250dieselrat Report Abuse you lost my interest when you mentioned California....
bigrigAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,734 Points:1,052,730 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:45:12 PM Ignore bigrigAZ Report Abuse CAP AND TRADE another scam and CARB -wow- Used to be every one followed California's lead. look where it got them. Do away with Cap & Trade. Don't follow California unless you want to end up as bad as the people living there now have it.
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texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,828 Points:360,445 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:42:37 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse California sheep deserve to be fleeced, for continually electing socialists.
danol43 Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,697 Points:588,180 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:41:34 PM Ignore danol43 Report Abuse ...and the government just keeps getting bigger.
sehonda Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,038 Points:916,010 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:39:03 PM Ignore sehonda Report Abuse eliminate democrat 'breeding' programs to reduce greenhouse gases...
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,042 Points:1,513,150 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:35:17 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse It will happen here just wait till obama gets re-elected!
mgune9 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:34:42 PM Ignore mgune9 Report Abuse cap and trade - what a joke and why to fleece the tax payers
car54BC Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,327 Points:1,255,005 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:32:29 PM Ignore car54BC Report Abuse Surprise ?
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,113 Points:1,610,595 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:30:45 PM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Cap & Trade schemes are bad news.
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savannahoaks Champion Author Rockford Posts:2,692 Points:634,260 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:24:54 PM Ignore savannahoaks Report Abuse Scam to fleece businesses for no good reason.
kelly1016 Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,953 Points:352,940 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:24:36 PM Ignore kelly1016 Report Abuse Sad that California and Quebec are the only ones buying in but BC is taking a different approach. We have a ever escalating Carbon tax. It was brought in by the Liberal party (wich is about as liberal as the Republicans).
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FlogNut Champion Author Chicago Posts:104,325 Points:1,987,675 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 4:07:02 PM Ignore FlogNut Report Abuse That "cap-and trade" program will end up costing Californians a whole bunch of money for little, if any, benefits.
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