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BPA orders NW wind farms to curtail production

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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- The Bonneville Power Administration twice ordered Pacific Northwest wind farms to cut production in recent days because it has a surplus of power from hydroelectric dams.

The agency, which manages much of the power grid in the Northwest, confirmed it issued the orders during the early morning hours of Sunday and Monday, when demand is low.

The action rekindles a dispute from last year, when the agency curtailed wind turbines because the water from a large mountain snowpack left the region with more hydropower than the electrical grid could handle.

Michael Milstein, a BPA spokesman, said spring runoff has picked up in the past month or two. "Originally it wasn't looking like that wet of a year, but that has changed," he said.

The agency controls a majority o


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Submitted May 01, 2012 By: mastermariner
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Bonanza
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:30:45 PM

They also kill thousands of birds
kdparham
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:29:26 PM

BPA is one of the largest energy traders. Go Figure.
mobil1MN
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:29:22 PM

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Hop1LA
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:26:39 PM

Too much energy production? That must be hard on the utility company!
Mr.Dirt
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:23:59 PM

they have to keep the price up some way
walkit1
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:22:24 PM

Heck, the grid is put together with bailing wire as it is. No plan what so ever!
paulydel
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:20:16 PM

They need to pass that extra power onto the grid.
nztyraider
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:16:14 PM

Build more power plants,duh!
Gassed01
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:15:49 PM

How about that. Too much power. At times Ontario has too much power and we PAY other constituencies to take our excess power. Unbelievably stupid.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:15:02 PM

So much for Green Energy.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:14:40 PM

They should, if they aren't already, be selling the computer data centers on the abundance of cheap power in the great Pacific northwest. Get their business - they run 24 / 7 - there is virtually no "off peak" time for them!
UC2
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:12:05 PM

what else is new?
drive energy price higher
KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:12:04 PM

What a mismanaged, and arrogant, agency BPA is. FERC warned them not to do it last year -- which was a farce. Thanks for the story. When are we going to have a real power grid in this country? BPA is jealous of renewables.

[Edited by: KAR120CSII at 5/1/2012 6:14:41 PM EST]
jessek
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:10:16 PM

Interesting turn of events.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:06:26 PM

Wow, too much power.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:02:47 PM

Fascinating.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:00:57 PM

Trying to make Obama look bad are we! Try to lower the electric charged to the public, but I guess that doesn't sit well with the Republicans!
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:59:59 PM

another gas unrelated news
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:59:21 PM

don't tell that clown obama another green idea down the drain
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:57:51 PM

they need to fix that
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:56:24 PM

We need ways to store electrical energy.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:50:21 PM

Storing power from wind turbines has been a problem.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:49:20 PM

can't they sell it to another company
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:49:13 PM

there is always a money underline to it all
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:46:53 PM

lower the rates then or sell off surplus to fossil fueled generation and save the planet and the oil..
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:46:38 PM

The latest news is they cause global warming!!!!
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:46:03 PM

Hummm....
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:38:52 PM

Interesting but I would not expect lower power rates.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:36:46 PM

Too much power???
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:31:29 PM

hope the price will drop
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:29:45 PM

Ok, not.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:27:34 PM

Just like the refiners. Too much cheap oil so they cut production to keep the prices up.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:23:25 PM

Surplus of power is not a bad thing.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:23:21 PM

'Too much electricity'? That's a head shaker.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:21:15 PM

So much for wind power! I guess wind power is more costly than hydroelectric power.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:19:36 PM

Hydro seems to have been missed in the rush to green. ...and it seems to be superior to the other overly hyped green power sources.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:19:32 PM

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:19:16 PM

Sell it to LA.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:15:25 PM

Too bad they can't store the energy for future use.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:12:04 PM

ok
SabrinaHokie
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:11:55 PM

Rather than curtailing it, there should be more investments to either allow it to be supplied to more areas, or storage facilities. Energy shortage is the trend in most parts of the world, not surplus!
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:11:29 PM

wow
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:10:19 PM

Oh come on, really?
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:09:10 PM

I live across the Columbia river in Vancouver, Washington and that is all we hear about on the news.
JoeKR
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:06:47 PM

Another argument for finding a way to store naturally generated energy.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:00:25 PM

Entranched government interests at work...
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:55:10 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:54:18 PM

wow
CorvairHaven
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:51:01 PM

Yep. Just throw up that giant STOP sign so the wind will calm down.
Only one person has ever done that...
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:46:11 PM

A SURPLUS of power, eh? Nice.
Eflander
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:44:25 PM

This is what happens when you can't distribute power as needed when some areas produce more than they need.
BeaconLite
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:41:50 PM

Now why Pacific Northwest wind farms not comply to BPA ordereds?

Why can't BPA sell it's surplus at a cut rate?
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