SovietSunrise
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 7:57:14 PM
No problemo.
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rather_bike
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 2:58:29 PM
Thanks for the info....
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SovietSunrise
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2013 5:49:58 PM
No, we ordered our Leaf in 2010 and we got it July 21, 2011. You're correct, insurance rates have been higher than a normal ICE car. Not outrageously higher, but noticeably higher. I believe they have slightly decreased since then.
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rather_bike
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2013 5:31:55 PM
"SovietSunrise" have you owned your Leaf since 2010? How are your insurance rates (differ from regular cars)?
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SovietSunrise
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 7:38:32 PM
26,000 miles on my Leaf and counting. Holding up pretty well. We love it!
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rather_bike
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 2:36:05 PM
Its becoming 1 of the top sellers (in the US) for electric since its cheaper & better range than most electrics. Not sold in my area.
Still the Hybrid seems to be the more user-friendly new technology at the moment.
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pbalmeo
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 8:00:48 AM
Anyone have long term comments about the lead yet?
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rather_bike
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 2:04:25 PM
The Nissan Leaf sounds like an exciting new alternative energy vehicle with great promise. I've seen some test drive reviews & so far- pretty darn good considering most of the test drivers are traditional/skeptical bunch.
Anyone have any new experiences they want to share? I am curious to get some more feedback such as that offered by "Gasfreeleaf"
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Lilly02
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 8:38:54 AM
Hmm I think one is in my future.
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2011 11:29:32 AM
Copy of latest update I posted in http://www.chattanoogagasprices.com/Forum_MSG.aspx?master=2&category=1253&topic=437519&page_no=1&FAV=N
Highlights of update I posted at http://www.myNissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1051&p=103580#p103580
My wife and I both really love it.
And with a little more than 500 miles on it, I ran the first numbers on variable cost (electricity) to operate it and couldn't be more pleased.
3.1 cents per mile!!!
Compared to 14.4 cents per mile for gasoline for my four cylinder Altima SL. And that doesn't include the 1 1/3 cents per mile for oil / filter changes on the Altima.
Only 21.4% of the cost of putting gasoline in a 4 cylinder Altima!!!
Now if the battery will last 100,000 miles, approximately 2900 discharge / charge cycles for my 35 miles round trip to work daily commute distance; and the battery replacement cost will start plummeting and/or charge capacity start improving a lot; then this will be a truly ground breaking technology.
As noted elsewhere on myNissanleaf.com, the vehicle range for driving that includes a lot of interstate driving at +65 mph speeds that are typical on the interstates in TN (even in the metropolitan areas), is more like 70 miles. A few people do report ranges up in the 90 to 100 miles, but that can only be done with conservative driving, in particular speeds less than 50 to 55 mph.
But the Leaf should become the primary (most miles driven) car for any household with daily commute driving under 45 to 50 miles round trip. Only the second car (less miles driven, the occasional longer range trip) may still need to be partly powered by gasoline or natural gas.
I do look forward to upgrading to a larger, more luxurious electric vehicle (possibly the Infiniti Electric). I miss having the electric leather seats and the Bose stereo, and the Altima is roomier and easier to get in and out of. The Leaf has only one horrendous error, and that is blind spot visibility. Nissan needs to send their idiot designers back to the drawing board immediately to improve this on the 2013 Leaf before they start manufacuturing it in Smyrna, and they need to correct the same stupid idiot designer problem on about 70% of the rest of the Nissan product line if they expect to improve their market share. But other than that one major flaw, overall we're pleased with Nissan's stellar Leading Environmnetal Affordable Family car.
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GasFreeLeaf
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2011 11:30:15 PM
Update:
We picked up our Pearl White Leaf today, almost a year after reserving it. Ours was one of 600 that left Japan before the unbelievable tragedy in that country. Nissan has our sincere respect and appreciation for taking the risk of being the first company to make a full commitment to the average consumers that want a full electric high quality vehicle.
The engineering is very impressive and well worth our plunge into the first adapter group. We are normally conservative and a little old fashioned about a lot of things, but this was a long planned decision to vote for this technology with our pocketbook.
The drive home included regular stop and go traffic. When I slow or stop the motor acts as a brake and regenerates energy to the lithium batteries. It magically makes stopping enjoyable. There was a long down hill that let me experiment with the finesse of feathering the brake peddle to get more regen and still flow with the speed of the other traffic, again recharging. oh yeah, I couldn't resist checking out how fast it got above the governed 90mph. Zippy, but just ahead someone was beside the freeway, getting a ticket; and that returned me to the sanity of driving with the rest of the pack.
I've driven electrics before and it is still a very quiet peaceful experience. We really appreciate the extra range of the Leaf for the Los Angeles/Orange County area. Extra range for me means using cheap electric power from the grid at night for almost all of our driving needs. I was discouraged that the more expensive Volt is only goes 40 electric miles and has to lug around heavy premium gas range extender with the obligatory extras that all gas powered vehicles require. The conservative in Smogville" me wants clean air right up close to where I sleep at night. It is cheaper and easier to keep a few power plant smoke stacks clean than 300 million exhaust pipes next to where we all sleep.
This car saves 850 gallons of per year by replacing our old car. 850 x $4 = $3400 per year that is available for someone else to feel free to use as they want. Nissan so far is the only company that gave me a choice to vote with my pocket book in a price range that worked for me.
The next generation Leaf will be made in Smyrna, TN where hard working Americans have the future of this technology in their hands. I hope and pray for the healing and rebuilding in Japan as well as the hope and success for the American dream builders in Smyrna.
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samual007
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2011 9:54:50 PM
its really nice and interesting....
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GasFreeLeaf
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2010 9:20:18 PM
We ordered a Leaf SL in Sept. 2010 and expect delivery between now and March 2011. This is a good choice for us at this time because of rebates and we already have a substantial photovoltaic system on our house that produces enough surplus to recharge the Leaf at no extra cost.
.. Reguarding previous Leaf posts -
The Solar Panel Spoiler on SL trim level supplies minimal charge to vehicle’s 12V battery to support operation of features (for example: charging a cell phone, operating the vehicle’s clock) and does not charge the vehicle’s lithium-ion battery nor extend range.
•Time to Charge varies, based on state of charge of the battery, condition and age of the battery, ambient temperature and condition of the power source connected to the vehicle. The following are estimates only; your actual experience may vary.
o Standard Charge. - Empty lamp ~100%: ~7 hours
o Trickle Charge. - Empty lamp ~ 100%: ~21 hours
o Quick Charge. - Empty lamp ~80%: ~30 minutes
o with battery temperature at 77 °F. (Quick Charging more than once per day not recommended)
New to spotting with GasBuddy app on a Droid.
[Edited by: GasFreeLeaf at 12/20/2010 12:23:35 AM EST]
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chipote
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2010 12:10:32 PM
At $ 20000 I would buy one for sure. I don't think it will be possible to get one under about 25 to 28K.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2010 9:27:09 PM
yea, as the years go by, technology and price will go hand-in-hand...
hopefully it'll be like computers' curve of advancement/ price
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SovietSunrise
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2010 6:43:17 PM
I'm pretty sure it has to do with cost/benefit, ricebike. They can't just plaster the whole car with photovoltaics, it becomes too expensive at some point, and failing to yield much more benefit for the money involved.
That's just my two cents.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2010 4:30:00 AM
quick chargers would shorten the battery life??? it does on my smaller batteries...
why stop at the roof for solar panels; they should line the top of the trunk and hood as well...
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SovietSunrise
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2010 8:00:38 PM
There are solar panels on the Leaf SV (the higher-up version) that run the electronics and a fan inside the car so that it doesn't get too hot when parked.
Would be better if they could charge the batteries, but that's still too cost-prohibitive at this point.
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Mikeoids
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2010 12:19:13 PM
All we need to add are solar pannels on the car and then life will be golden.
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cheapgasPA
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2010 5:44:12 AM
Interesting concept.
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Mikeoids
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2010 1:24:54 PM
I would sure like to know what it costs to recharge the batteries. Hope its less than gas, then I would buy one in a heart beat. They could also add a solar panel to the roof to recharge while there are at it.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2009 12:24:39 AM
Umm, Deterent, the Boycott/Gasout Talk page is not the home page unless you have set it in your favourites. If you look at the list when you click Category, you will see Car Talk, where this would belong, or on the main page it could be a news story.
But as Squiddy said, it has been posted in Car Talk already.
It can take a while for a newbie to our forums to figure out what goes where, but it isn't just members that like posts in the right place it is the moderators, who have created a fair list of forums for us to choose from.
Of course, in our local topic, Winnipeg Discussion, we can discuss almost anything of interest to our members.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2009 12:05:58 AM
Interesting concept.
Sounds like it could be a very viable alternative to the internal conbustion engine.
What better way to boycott than to own a vehicle that consumes zero gas.
Welcome to Gasbuddy.
Ignore any onslaught of disparaging commentary from biased anti boycotting big oil apologists with their vested interests to protect.
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Deterent
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2009 8:36:00 PM
Here's its home page site and a news article/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE57108X20090802
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