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Indy_mm

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Message Posted: May 15, 2006 10:05:24 AM

how well do you think their are going to be this coming year?
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CaptainAnhyzer
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2015 6:16:33 AM

LOL Stafford even throws INTs in the Pro Bowl !!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2015 6:07:38 AM

Lions' Matthew Stafford is Pro Bowl's offensive MVP

As I was asyin'... lol ;)
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2015 8:36:04 AM

I should add, Stafford is the first Lions QB to go to a Pro Bowl since '71...

"He'll become the first Lions quarterback to play in the Pro Bowl since Greg Landry was selected for the game after the 1971 season."

hooky seems to enjoy being wrong... ;)
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2015 7:04:07 PM

Stafford in the Pro Bowl... Can't be bad ;)

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 1/18/2015 10:04:24 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2015 4:37:26 AM

"Stafford actually played one of his better games against Dallas..."

Yes he did.
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Service66
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2015 6:06:46 PM


"Stafford actually played one of his better games against Dallas..."

I noticed that and was surprised. He looked ol' Matt Safford against GB and CHI.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2015 7:17:56 AM

"Displays of ignorance don't seem to embarrass some people!"

You keep posting, so apparently not...
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hooky
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2015 6:56:41 AM

Displays of ignorance don't seem to embarrass some people!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2015 6:07:12 AM

"Stafford and a lack of discipline are the weak links here. Way too many stupid penalties hurt the offense and kept the defense on the field."

Stafford actually played one of his better games against Dallas, so not really sure what you were watching? Detroit played a pretty good game and had Caldwell not gotten so conservative and gone for it on 4th down rather than punting the Lions could have potentially overcome the poor officiating as well to win the game...

7 penalties for the game, 4 on offense 3 on defense for 44 yards (1 false start on the O-line, 1 false start on Megatron and 2 delay of games). That seems to be pretty disciplined to me. For comparison, the Packers had 4 offensive penalties and 4 defensive penalties for 72 yards in their Divisional Playoff game against Dallas. Nobody is accusing them of not being disciplined...
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BigJake
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2015 4:57:17 AM

Stafford and a lack of discipline are the weak links here. Way too many stupid penalties hurt the offense and kept the defense on the field.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 4:53:29 PM

"I don't know how decent their running game - maybe their OL is all run block specialists - but Stafford is certainly the weak link."

They haven't run the ball effectively in years... Stafford is plenty good enough to get to a SB, if the likes of Dilfer and Grossman can do it, both of whom Stafford is far superior.

Couldn't be happier about that Dallas outcome, I love karma sometimes.
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Service66
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 12:21:53 PM


I don't know how decent their running game - maybe their OL is all run block specialists - but Stafford is certainly the weak link.

As for NFC North qb's, I'd easily take Bridgewater over Cutler and Stafford.

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Service66
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 12:16:05 PM


"and Scott Mitchell, has anybody else seen his 'Hollywood' Makeover after going through the Biggest Loser program? He really set us back some yrs. when he was our QB "

I remember that - he played for MIA and became a free agent. Couldn't believe it. That's the problem with signing a backup to be your starter. Matt Flynn is a perfect example.
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 12:00:58 PM

as do I Weaslespit..so do I
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 10:57:09 AM

"I would agree about Stafford."

You think the Lions have a decent running game? Yikes...
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 10:50:10 AM

So, BigJake, you are a Vikings fan!

I would agree about Stafford.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 10:24:06 AM

"and Scott Mitchell, has anybody else seen his 'Hollywood' Makeover after going through the Biggest Loser program? He really set us back some yrs. when he was our QB"

I still remember his clutch interception at RFK in OT that was returned for a game-winning TD.

SMH
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2015 9:19:41 PM

and Scott Mitchell, has anybody else seen his 'Hollywood' Makeover after going through the Biggest Loser program? He really set us back some yrs. when he was our QB
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:30:15 AM

"Like Daunte Culpepper?"

I watched him in replacement of Stafford playing the Bungles. Talk about a shell of his former self... The Vikes milked him for all he was worth (and he was worth a lot for a long time).
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:21:12 AM

Like Daunte Culpepper?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:06:25 AM

"False, they have had better quarterbacks..."

LOL - OK, Viking fan...
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BigJake
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 3:36:35 AM

'Stafford is the best QB the Lions have had in 20+ years.'

False, they have had better quarterbacks - just that they played on much worse teams. Stafford is 0-17 now against winning teams on the road. That is not a coincidence. With a decent running game, very good receivers and a great defense he is not getting the job done.

As a Viking fan, I am hoping that they keep him and Chicago stays with Cutler for a very long time. Neither team will amount to much with these two QBs.
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 9:12:16 PM

terrible loss and the way the game changed rules in the last quarter didn't help..
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 6:57:40 PM

Romo knew... ;)
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 3:53:10 PM

Too bad Suh was suspended. They really could have used him on the field. What???... The suspension was lifted? He actually played in the game? Who knew?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 11:27:25 AM

"Careful what you wish for......."

No doubt. Kramer was the best of the bunch and he wasn't much better (if any) than Shaun Hill who is simply a very good back-up, as was Batch. There is a reason why they (Hill, Batch) were never starters after leaving Detroit.
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LogicMan
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 8:03:46 AM


The guy has averaged over 5K passing yards the last 4 ..... I'd say Stafford is a more than adequate QB.

Erik Kramer anyone?? Peete (his SO is beautiful, lucky guy), Scott Mitchell? Batch/Frerotte? Joey Harrington? Kitna?


Careful what you wish for.......
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 7:51:17 AM

"Where can they find another QB that can get them this far? Only thing Stafford did wrong was not get them in the endzone again after it was 14-0."

Agreed. Offensive line health and depth, among other things, far exceeds any perceived need to upgrade at QB.

Given that this was his first year under a new coach and OC, I'd like to see some more growth from Stafford in this offense as well.

TE continues to be a need. Most elite teams use their TE's consistently in both the passing and running game, Pettigrew had his first catch last night since Thanksgiving and Ebron can't block. Hopefully Ebron will show some growth in that area so Pettigrew can be released.



[Edited by: Weaslespit at 1/5/2015 10:56:49 AM EST]
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C.S.
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 7:45:22 AM

Where can they find another QB that can get them this far? Only thing Stafford did wrong was not get them in the endzone again after it was 14-0.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 7:30:18 AM

"hooky is correct - they need a new QB"

Most teams that lose their last game of the season say that, until they find out that the grass is not always greener...

Stafford is the best QB the Lions have had in 20+ years. They could do a little better, but they could do a lot worse. He actually played a very good game yesterday.

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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 7:18:44 AM

hooky is correct - they need a new QB
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 7:05:57 AM

The decision to punt on 4th-&-1 (later 4th-&-6) wasn't as bad as the horrid shank that followed.

I didn't catch Dez running on the field without his helmet on, but how the heck could the refs not see that? PI/def. holding/unsportsmanlike; any of those should've given Detroit a first down.

Well, who knows what would've happened. A FG would've given Detroit a 6-point lead, which still would've given Dallas a chance. A TD would've put the game away.

Yeah, leaving too many plays on the field allowed the controversy to take place. The Colts got away with that vs. the inept Bengals, but won't get away with that vs. the Broncos.
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CaptainAnhyzer
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 6:59:22 AM

Hey we finished the season with 11 wins and made the playoffs.
An improvement over last season.

What happened in Dallas is over. Only consellation is gonna be watching Dallas get schooled at Lambeau.
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 6:43:01 AM


Weasle nailed it, and it's true about nearly every sporting event.

"you never want to put yourself in a situation where an egregiously bad call by the refs helps to determine the outcome in favor of your opponent."

Magnified in the post season, particularly when it contributes to ending a team's season.

Ask the '85 Redbirds about that........
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Nomofriggincube
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 6:31:36 AM

I didn't see the play, but if a flag is thrown, then SOMEONE saw SOMETHING. Just to pick it up like it never happened without an explanation is ridiculous. What about Dez running onto the field without his helmet on? Shouldn't that have been a penalty as well..or even by itself? Sounds like Lions got robbed. I will say, what Coach Caldwell did when he punted at Dallas 45 instead of going for it on 4th and 1, was very Philbin like. No confidence in your offense. He blew that one.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 6:03:43 AM

"AS for Stafford I think he'll find the grove this week giving Detroit a 33 -9 win.What an upset on there way to the NFC championship Game !!!!!"

So close.... Or not.
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 5:37:30 AM

"What made the PI reversal even worse (other than the fact that it was initially the correct call), was the penalty was ANNOUNCED, THEN REVERSED! I've never seen that before in all the years I've watched the NFL!"

Agree, as I just said as much on the Cowboys thread. Though I could see it being a non-call in the playoffs, as there were plenty of other plays where there was lots of contact that weren't called in both games yesterday.


But the Lions don't disappoint and move to 1-11 in the playoffs in the Super Bowl era.

[Edited by: Zimcity at 1/5/2015 8:38:26 AM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 5:16:21 AM

The Lions left too many plays out on the field, you never want to put yourself in a situation where an egregiously bad call by the refs helps to determine the outcome in favor of your opponent.

It looked like losing Swanson really hurt the O-Line as the Lions run game was gashing Dallas in the 1st Half. Two 3rd stringers on the O-line was a bit too much for the offense to overcome.
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 4:24:05 AM

Well, it was a good first half, but did anybody really think a Michigan based sports team was going to rise to the challenge?
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 4:09:05 AM

If they were a championship team, they would have overcome the bad call! They are a QB away from greatness!
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2015 1:37:25 AM

Sorry, Lions fans. I really feel for you. What made the PI reversal even worse (other than the fact that it was initially the correct call), was the penalty was ANNOUNCED, THEN REVERSED! I've never seen that before in all the years I've watched the NFL!

Pete Morelli's explanation. Unfortunately, that won't come close to satisfying Lions players or fans. Really a shame, since it spoiled an otherwise entertaining game.

Agreed, mrkiddd. Why couldn't they place the best CREWS in these games, instead of just the best refs?

Will the Lions really let Suh go? Completely eliminate the knucklehead factor at the expense of taking a big chunk of D away? I assume Raiola is as good as gone.

As Cubs fans have said in the past 105-or-so years: "Wait 'til next year!"
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mrkiddd125
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 9:42:13 PM

Sorry Logic misread your logic with no explanation forthcoming ???
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 8:20:31 PM

I'm not a Lions fan but that reversal on the pass interference call was disgusting. The Cowboys MVP award goes to that officiating crew.
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LogicMan
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 8:20:29 PM


I actually didn't say the refs cost DET the game.
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mrkiddd125
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 7:48:15 PM

Well we ran out of Honolulu Blue Kool-Aid for my fans out there before half time.But as LogicMan and rkt wgn said the refs cost Detroit the game,It was stated during the game after the reverse call of pass interference that these refs never worked a game together this year so why put this make shift group together in an important game as this ? As for Stafford and the offence I cannot see why the coaches didn't stay with what was working 1st quarter 14 points 2 drives ??? The passing game was there and not when needed they rather run then throw.Well let's see if Suh will stay or go play somewhere else till then Let's get ready for a second place Tigers team to make some noise OK Weasle !!!!
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 6:39:00 PM

Ref's did leave something to be desired!
That would be the way ed Hoculies would umpire.
My spelling would help too :)
I was hoping for Detroit to win. Tough break !!!
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 6:35:19 PM

The refs blew this one !!
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LogicMan
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 6:21:54 PM


It may or may not have won the game but DET definitely got screwed on the PI that wasn't a PI with no explanation forthcoming.

And Dez Bryant on the field yapping about the call with no helmet on and no penalty. For real?

The No Fun League office has some 'splaining to do but that won't help the DET faithful or change what happened.


All in all an exciting game to watch.

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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 5:33:31 PM

I am a rams fan , so I'll let you feel sorry for me (:
But, I personally feel that Suh should sit out about half the schedule next year.
The NFL messed up letting the players union dominate the punishment.
Someone stated that they would take Shaun Hill over Stafford. Hill is a very good backup, but not one you will win a title with.
I don't see the lions play often, but I think Stafford has a shotgun throwing arm.
I'd take him in a heartbeat over what we have had go the last 8-10 years.
The Rams have an up and coming team, if they could only stay healthy!
Bradford was rookie of the year in his first year, and there wasn't anyone around to help him.
Now we have people to throw to that can catch a ball, and no QB .
Bradford will return next year, and maybe the turf gremlins won't reach up and grab him :).
I have heard that the Lions are going to let Suh go after this year. His contract is over, right?
Too bad he can't play a clean game. He can be dominate. He needs to straighten up. I'd love to receive his fines, I'd live pretty good with them!
The rams had a crazy man that they let go to Miami, and I don't think he is playing now.


[Edited by: rkt wgn at 1/4/2015 8:35:04 PM EST]
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 4:39:18 PM

Lions got ripped on the pass interference call that was reversed.
J jones paying off more referees :))
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2015 6:41:11 AM

Hyper rationalizations.
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