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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2006 8:05:43 AM
Hey karaokedavid... i agree with you, contraction is not a option. Although, i do think the league is too big, they should've stopped at 25 or so, but now its at 30, leave it, dont expand anymore, and like i've said in past forums, and SHEP will agree with me, I'm willing to move teams if the fans don't support the teams, why would you keep a team in say.... columbus if the fans don't give a rats ass about them, you cant make money with 8000 fans per game. Unfortunatly that is what its all about, but like i said in the past, relocation should be a last resort, only when every other possible solution is exhuasted. be cool man
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2006 6:21:10 PM
I think some teams need to move, but I disagree with "shrinking" the league. The last few stanley cups have all been different teams. Every year the standings split up greatly, this is very good for the 30 teams, plus the more teams involved, the more fans get involved. I am from St. Louis, but live in Tampa, when I moved here, no one talked hockey-it was Bucs this Bucs that. . .since the Lightning took the cup--everyone here knows hockey, they know about the Redwings and Blues rivalry, the blood shed between the Wings & Avs, the Maple Leafs and Senators--the great Canadian battles of old--It's wonderful to be able to talk hockey in the SouthEast now--that wouldn't have happened if we had shrank to 18 or 20 teams--Tampa at that time would have most deffinitely been one of the 10 or so teams ousted.
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2006 8:48:09 PM
:-) Thanks my4kids! But I think NHL commish would be a thankless job - although I would get to go to every Stanley Cup. Hmmmm....
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2006 4:12:39 PM
Should reduce the league to 18 teams and spread the talent around. What a league that would be! Too bad money rules the game. Too many teams in the U.S. that do not get the support from the fans.
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2006 10:20:02 AM
damn EGNRALNC.... YOU SHOULD BE THE COMMISIONER
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2006 6:24:43 PM
You have to remember that the WHA teams were allowed to keep only 3 players each from their 1978-79 team. The remaining players went into a dispersal draft open to all NHL teams (including the WHA arrivals). So, that is why the WHA entries into the NHL were considered expansion teams at the time. Fortunately for the Edmonton Oilers, Gretzky was one of the 3 players they kept. They got Messier in the dispersal draft from the Cincinnati Stingers WHA franchise.
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my5kids
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2006 5:13:22 PM
I disagree with the former WHA teams, Edmonton, Hartford, Winnipeg, Quebec, being called expansion teams, as they were already professional hockey teams, they were just relocated to the NHL, but i guess in theory they are technically expansion teams!
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2006 10:30:50 AM
Once the dispersal draft occured, the Sharks were born, and the Dallas Stars were the relocated Minnesota North Stars. SO.... the North Stars were an expansion team originally... The Stars are not, and the Sharks are!
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2006 5:45:16 AM
You know, there was a team that didn't move that could be considered an "expansion team". The Minnesota North Stars were split in half after the 1990-91 season to produce the San Jose Sharks. Minnesota partipated with the Sharks in the 1991 Dispersal Draft. Officially, though, the 1991-92 North Stars were not considered an expansion team.
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my5kids
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2006 4:59:41 AM
Alright, sorry.... here's what it should've said...
So... Holy Crap.... People!, are relocated teams expansion teams or not?
There, is that better, I think the are not by the way, as the league was not expanded
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2006 2:18:18 AM
I don't know who the "holy crap" people are, but they must really like "Everybody Loves Raymond" since that is one of the favorite lines of Raymond's father Frank Barone (played by Peter Boyle)!
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2006 1:53:07 PM
Hmmm... who are these "holy crap people" anyway? ;-)
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my5kids
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2006 10:25:21 AM
So holy crap people, are relocated teams expansion or NOT!!!!
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2006 5:38:10 PM
nahhh... I just can't rattle your cage until next season, no hockey to rant about, baseball is kind of boring, although the Jays are doing alright, or... the yankees and sox suck, whatever... but come October, I'll be all over you baby.... I'll give you some props though, you seem to be trying to get the game, and i like that, dont jump the bandwagon, i like that... support your team and they'll take care of the rest... i like that.... those are the teams that belong... woo hoo.... I miss hockey already!!!!! keep up the posting I'll keep looking out for ya... till then!!
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2006 1:11:26 PM
my4kids, you suck. I started reading your last post to me, and I started planning my reply before I got done. Dang it if you didn't go all nice on me and screw it all up.
I was all ready to call you Monkeybrain Jr, and such and such. Then you had to go and that I seem to know my stuff. That just killed it all. Oh well.
By the way, I'm not a hockey expert, but I'm getting there. The day after game 7, (Tuesday?) I was having to explain to people at work why it wasn't 4-1. Sure, the puck did go in, and with the NBC review we know that. Unfortunately, knowing what I know about the rules, the refs actually made the right call. Believe it or not. They couldn't see it on replay, and in their opinion, the play was blown dead before he pulled it under himself. Not that it matters now, but oh well.
And I've heard it called Crapolina before by others, but usually, that's by people that have never been here. Funny how none of the Canes players want to leave the area once they get here. They all love it here. Decent schools, good areas to live, beautiful scenery, GREAT FANS (the non-bandwagon ones at least). If you've never been here, you should come on down and see it. Just don't get any ideas about moving here, we have enough Yankees and Canucks here as it is. LOL. I've heard it said that if you want to get away from Yankees, move to New York. There's none there because they're all here.
Nice talking to me? Does that mean we won't see you till next season?
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2006 11:58:27 AM
Hey Monkeyman... that was a nice rant!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2006 4:56:14 AM
Hey TDice, Monkeyman is not the commish!!!! I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2006 4:54:30 AM
Hey SHEP... Perhaps you're the one who should read back.... I dont want anybody dropped, but if i was asked who would be dropped, I answered. You got Peed off cuz i said the 'Canes, so who's tailfeathers got ruffled. As for talk about Canadian teams getting dumped, not likely to happen seeing as we MAX OUT OUR RINKS, unlike some of the teams in the states. Fact remains, there are 24 u.s. teams, a few are not going to do very well at the gate, lose 'em, or move 'em. Their are 6 teams in CANADA, and they are doing excellent at the gate, they arent going anywhere. I feel that you think I'm bashing those teams because they're american, NOPE, i'm bashing those teams cuz their fans arent showing any interest. So take a chill pill SHEPPY 'ol boy, cheer on your 'Canes, cuz maybe they will hang around for a while, but if they don't, or some other team down south there dont, relax man, cuz THAT'S HOCKEY!!!!! woo hooo, GO LEAFS GO, GO OILERS GO, GO FLAMES GO, GO CANUCKS GO, GO HABS GO, GO SENS GO. and by the way dawg, Crapolina??? Yeah, eh, i did come up wit dat all by myself dawg. Peace out Sheppy, you old bird, have a great summer and enjoy the cup, cuz its up for grabs come october, holy cow man. ONE MORE THING SHEPPY!!! I've enjoyed having it out with you cuz you seem to know your stuff, thanks for the stimulating conversation, i feel like i know you... have a good one pal!!!!! i mean that!!!
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2006 3:31:31 AM
Crapolina? Yeah, you're showing YOUR intelligence. Did you think that up all by yourself, or did you have help? Come on, this has nothing to do with the Hurricanes winning the Cup, but this has EVERYTHING to do with you and others talking out of your rears about dropping teams from the NHL that you don't think are "worthy", and for some reason, you think that as a Canadian or a Northerner you are the only ones that should decide.
You talk about MY arrogance, but you and people like you are the ones that are arrogant. You feel like being Canadian gives you some God given right to decide what's right for hockey. And I didn't start calling people on it AFTER the 'Canes won, in case you missed it, I called Monkeyman on it, BEFORE the Buffalo series was even over.
What this is all about is that you, and people like you, don't seem to understand that every team in every sport has a mixture of fans. Hockey is no different. There are the die-hard fans like me and you that would do anything to watch their team. There are those that are fans, but don't watch every game, and then there are bandwagon fans that jump on when the local team is winning. It happens everywhere, and in every sport. It is just more noticeable in places where hockey is new to the area, like Carolina, Florida, Atlanta.... you get the point. Still, hockey is growing. Come back in another 10 years and talk to me about the fans in Carolina. I'll bet you that as the 'Canes keep winning, the sport of hockey will keep the bandwagon fans interest up, and they won't be bandwagon anymore. We can all agree that hockey is one of the best sports on Earth, and if you watch it long enough, you are hooked.
I'll finish with this. This whole thing got started because of talk of dropping teams from the NHL. That's all well and good, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it seems that when Canadians or Northerners talk about it, the ones that are suggested always come from a warm climate place. I'm sick and tired of the hatred of these teams. It comes off as arrogance that only cold weather climates are "allowed" to have hockey. That's total BS. I only mention that the last two Cup winners and all those Finalists were warm climate teams to prove a point. Hockey is viable here, and is WORKING.
And my4kids, chill, it's ok. Mostly, I'm just trying to get your tail feathers ruffled. Look at it this way, if you were always reading about how Canadian teams sucked and should be dropped from the NHL, you'd be doing the same thing I have. You'd be defending them. That's all I'm doing. That and asking for people to give some respect to Southern teams, believe it or not, it's actually working. You should be happy that this great sport is taking hold in the south... you get to share what you've known about all along.
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2006 9:07:10 PM
Hey you chowder head Monkeyman, why do continually ignore my question on what makes you the Commissioner of the NHL? How in the HELL do you know that the Pens won't get a new rink? Just go cheer your has been Patsys. Mario won't have to save the Pens anymore because Kid Sid will do just fine. Your damn right Malkin will help as will whoever they draft on Saturday. And since when do you have to max out any salary cap to win a Cup? The last time I looked the Rangers have won 1 cup in over 50 years. Yeah by the way, the cheer is GO LAUGHS GO!
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2006 8:11:54 PM
You know what SHEP, reading your posts b4 your beloved team won the cup, they were actually readable, but since the Whalers won, you are so full of arrogance its disgusting. I've never once said i have a problem with whatever teams winning the cup... who gives a crap about southern teams winning.... apparently you do... you're the only one talking about it. I AM A HOCKEY FAN BABY FIRST AND FOREMOST, BECAUSE I AM CANADIAN.... I DONT CARE HOW FAR THE RINK IS, IF I WANT TO GO, I GO... I DONT USE THE EXCUSE... "OH ITS TOO FAR TO GO TO THE GAME" THATS ABSOLUTE B.S. YOU GOTTA TEAM, SUPPORT THEM BY GOING TO THE GAME, THATS THE ONLY THING THE OWNERS LOOK AT, AND THATS THE ONLY REASON YOUR BELOVED TEAM IN IS CRAPOLINA. IT IS CANADA'S GAME, WE'RE JUST LETTING YOU PLAY IT. AND THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, CANADIAN BOYS STILL RULE THE NHL. BUT THATS NOT WHAT I'M ALL ABOUT EITHER.... I COULD CARE LESS WHERE THE HELL YOU'RE FROM, AS LONG AS YOU'RE GOOD, CUZ THATS WHAT I LIKE TO SEE, GOOD HOCKEY. I DONT LIKE WHINERS, AND I DONT LIKE IGNORANCE, AND I DONT LIKE ARROGANCE. NEVER HAVE I HEARD OR READ FOR THAT MATTER THE THINGS I READING FROM YOU... GIVE A REST BABY, YOUR TEAM WON... WOOO HOOO, ALRIGHT 'CANES, YEAH MAN, YOU'RE THE BEST, SOUTHEAST RULES MAN... YEEE HAWW... IS THAT BETTER, WIPE THE DAMN TEARS. JEEEZ!!! AND LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH THIS, WHO KEEPS WINNING MEDALS AT THE WORLD JUNIORS BABY, CANT QUITE RECALL, WHO WON THE WORLD CUP OF HOCKEY BABY... NOT TOO SURE OF THAT ONE EITHER, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE U.S. WON THE GOLD AT THE GAMES, HMMM MAYBE IT WAS THE MIRACLE ON ICE, BUT YET THEY'RE THE FAVORITE EVERY YEAR, UNBELIEVABLE, LETS SEE, THE WOMAN KEEP ON KICKING YOUR BUTTS TOO, MAN OH MAN, IT MUST SUCK LOSING ALL THE TIME TO US..... BUT AGAIN, THATS NOT ME, I LOVE HOCKEY, I LOVE ALL THE TEAMS IN THE NHL, BUT IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I'D GET RID OF THE TEAMS I SAID, THAT WAS MY OPINION!!!!! PUT IT TO REST MAN, DON'T BLOW A HEAD GASKET, AND WHEN THE 'CANES LEAVE BECAUSE ITS TOO FAR TO GO TO THE GAMES, WHY DONT YOU FOLLOW THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Edited by: my4kids at 6/22/2006 11:19:49 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2006 5:46:10 PM
Throw a rock in a pack of dogs, and the one you hit is going to whine.
This isn't about fans not showing up, so don't even try that stupid crap. This is about your indignation at having to watch warm weather teams. People like you can't stand to see it. If you noticed, I gave credit for 4 Canadian teams making it to the playoffs, but for the most part they didn't show up when they were there. I've had this discussion with Monkeyman8 before about attendaNCe. You have no idea what you are talking about. For one, with the exception of the big cities around here, MOST people in NC don't make enough money to go to a game. The tickets cost more than they can afford. Besides that, we are spread out...it takes 30 minutes or more to get to Raleigh from most cities around here. During a weekday, most people can't get to the game after working all day.
"As an american", I can quiet down a little bit? There you go with your "Canadians are the only ones worthy" BS. Give it up, if it was only a Canadian game, then there would be more than 6 Canadian teams. You people up there have lost "YOUR" game to the US. Get over it. There is even a smaller percentage of Canucks playing in the NHL as it is. It used to be like 80 percent Canadian, but not anymore. Between the American players and players from Europe and Russia, Canadians are being pushed out. Quit crying about it and watch the game that you "claim" to love.
As far as me playing hockey as opposed to you being "on skates siNCe you were 4", SO WHAT?!? I would hope as a Canadian that you WOULD have been. If not, then you would be an oddity. Down here, we can't say the same. This is a new sport to us in the south. Kids around here now have been skating siNCe they were 3 and 4 also, I just didn't have that opportunity. This sport is growing day by day around here. Remember we've only had a team for 10 years. How long has hockey been in Canada.
So, as I said before, SHUT UP and GET OVER IT! Quit complaining about Southern teams. Remember, the last two Stanley Cup Champions are from the Southeast Division, and both years, a Canadian team lost.
And remember, the last FOUR Stanley Cup Finals has iNCluded a warm climate team, and siNCe the 1996 Finals all but TWO have iNCluded a warm weather team.(I am iNCluding the Capitals siNCe they are in the Southeast Division)
If you don't believe me, look here.
my4kids, you might want to chill, you're starting to sound like Monkeyman8, and that's not good.
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2006 11:28:30 AM
Hey SHEP, i tried to leave you alone for a while but i can't help it now. First, let me just say this about your hockey playing since 2000, and '97 on blades... ooooohhhhh, i've been on skate since i was 4 years old baby... thats the early '70s alright, next, as Canadians we have the god given right to say what the hell we want about hockey and if you don't like it, as an american, than quiet down a little. You have you're right to give your opinion, but as far as your little "what did the Canadian teams do" crap... there's only 6 Canadian teams in the damn league, 24 american, only 4 of 6 made it thats 67%, 12 of 24 american teams made it, thats 50%, but who cares, we're die hard hockey fans up here man, and whether 1 or all 6 made it, we're happier than a pig in S##T, we cheer on whatever Canadian team is in it to the end. OUR rinks are full beyond 100%. Now as far as my opinion goes for the teams I chose to eliminate from my NHL, I chose those teams cuz i feel that the fan base in the area have shown that they don't care much unless their team wins, ie, panthers fans didnt show up till the team started winning, and moving on in the playoffs, THAN, their damn rink still wasnt full, by the time they final came around, sure maybe it was full than, how's their attendance now... If i really wanted to go on i could, as far as original 6 teams go, boston and chicago.... everybody knows about the Hawkes problems, and it doesnt help that the Bruins owner is a cheap pr##k. If americans were as crazy about hockey as Canadians were, than maybe they could show it by going to the damn games, instead of showing up when their team makes the final 4. I dont hate american teams, just american fans. I'd love to see the Pens and the Caps turn it around. I got a soft spot for the Devils, and I enjoy watching the Sharks and the talent they got, I could do without the Jackets, Thrashers, and the other teams I mentioned earlier. I dont care to watch half empty rinks. FILL 'EM UP OR GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANY BY THE WAY SHEP, YOUR 'CANES ARE SOON TO BE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS THAT THE FANS DON'T SHOW UP TO THE GAMES UNTIL THEY START WINNING, THE INFATUATION WILL WEAR OFF!!!!!!!! THE 'CANES WISH THEY HAD THE FOLLOWING ANY CANADIAN TEAM HAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Edited by: my4kids at 6/22/2006 2:32:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2006 11:14:06 AM
I've noticed alot of Canadian Hockey fans that seem to think that they have a monopoly on good teams. They have an intense hatred of any team that isn't from a cold area, and think that these teams shouldn't exist. Personally, I wish that you people would shut up. I don't think that you should be trashing these teams, especially when the last two Cup winners have come from the Southeast Division. Besides that, a quick check of the past winners shows us that a Canadian hockey team hasn't won the Cup since the 1993 Montreal Canadians.
Yes, 4 out of 6 Canadian teams made the playoffs this year. That's all well and good, but what did they do when they got there?
Ottawa had the second best record in the league, and the best record in the East. After taking out the defending Cup champs, fell to Buffalo in the Conference semi finals 4 games to 1. Hardly a great showing.
Calgary won the Northwest Division, and then lost first round to the Anaheim Mighty Ducks(a warm climate team) 4-3.
Montreal had a good year, went to the playoffs and won the first two games, AT Carolina I might add. Then, for some reason, they forgot that it was a seven game series, not 3, and didn't win another game. They dropped 4 in a row to be put out in the first round by ? You guessed it, a warm climate team. (At least they can say they lost to the eventual Cup Champs.)
Edmonton was what I would say is the bright spot for Canadian Hockey this playoff year. They fought hard through the playoffs and never gave up. They deserved to be in the Finals, and if they had won the Cup would have deserved it. But yet again, they fell to a warm climate team.
Since they failed to make the playoffs, we won't even discuss Toronto or Vancouver.
My point is this, you stupid Canucks that keep saying that warm climate teams have no place in the NHL need to jump down off your high horses and get a clue. It's great that you look at hockey like a religion, but don't act like you are the only ones "worthy" to have teams. You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. "Caniacs" are every bit as fanatic about our teams as you are, and I'm sure that fans in Tampa, Phoenix, Anaheim and the other places you look down are too. We don't just watch it either. I've been playing hockey since 2000 on ice, and since 97 on roller blades. And I know alot of other southern people that do as well.
So, in conclusion, SHUT UP and GET OVER IT!
[Edited by: shep0507 at 6/22/2006 2:15:43 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2006 12:38:49 AM
I'm comical? Actually I believe it is Bill Wirtz who is comical since he owns the Chicago Blackhawks which had the lowest attendance in the entire NHL at only 65% of capacity. Gee, Bill I guess blacking out home games really DOES affect attendance, right?! While I agree that Bettman would be an idiot to fold the Blackhawks he would be a savior to the long suffering hockey fans in Chicago if he took the team away from the Wirtz family.
IMO it would be a mistake to eliminate any teams from the NHL.
I don't believe the talent pool is as diluted as some of you think since there are more players from the United States and all of the European hockey playing countries than ever before. The best professional hockey players all over the world look to the NHL as the highest level of competition and 30 teams isn't too many, in fact it may be not enough!
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2006 6:40:22 PM
I agree with all but Washington, the U.S. capital will never lose their team, as for NYI, FLA, and CAR, bye bye, and take the Thrashers, the Jackets, and the Preds with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO LEAFS GO.. uhhh wait a minute.... I should probably start that cheer up in October!
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2006 9:04:05 AM
i beleave that edmonton will move to tulsa, ok or oklahoma city, ok in the future.
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2006 12:14:21 PM
I agree a few teams should be gone but i dont think monkeyman8 said the bottom 4-6 teams, read the post, teams like Columbus, Nashville, Atlanta, maybe both Florida teams, maybe a Cali team, bring 'er down to maybe 24 teams, have a balanced schedule and we're good. If expansion is in the future i hope they look at Winnipeg, it's colder than anything there in the winter time but its a hockey mad city, today's econimics in the NHL could probably support a team there. And while we're at it, the Coyotes can take a hike too!!!
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2006 5:08:54 AM
no
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2006 1:24:33 PM
OK, Monkeyman8 but if they fold the bottom 4-6 teams then that means no more Pittsburgh Penguins, Washington Capitals, Boston Bruins, St. Louis Blues, Chicago Blackhawks, and Columbus Blue Jackets.
You might notice that this list of terrible teams includes 2 original 6 teams (Boston and Chicago) but only 1 recent expansion team (Columbus).
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2006 9:01:17 AM
No
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2006 6:46:58 PM
No, an expansion team is a brand new team, not a team that relocates.
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2006 4:44:18 PM
No
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2006 2:53:47 PM
A team that relocates is not an expansion team unless they had to give up all of their roster players upon moving, and then go through an expansion draft to get players back.
Wikipedia considers teams as expansion teams for the 1st and, in some cases, the 2nd season.
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