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SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,429 Points:3,330,230 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Dec 14, 2005 3:58:23 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Which one would you pick for rookie of the year ? OR ... do you have someone else in mind ? [Edited by: SUV4GUY at 12/14/2005 6:59:32 PM EST]

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Which one would you pick for rookie of the year ?

OR ... do you have someone else in mind ?

[Edited by: SUV4GUY at 12/14/2005 6:59:32 PM EST]

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kimo31 Champion Author Orange County Posts:9,922 Points:2,576,970 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: May 21, 2006 3:59:18 PM Ignore kimo31 Report Abuse Ovechkin should win it. He had an outstanding season with a lousy team and Crosby had a very good season with a terrible team. Hopefully the Capitals and Penguins will build around these guys and we can watch them in the playoffs next season!
cjameson27 Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:15 Points:3,520 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 21, 2006 9:14:49 AM Ignore cjameson27 Report Abuse Oveshkin was just too talented this year, he'll be rookie of the year.
GTO Joe Veteran Author Albany Posts:460 Points:19,590 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: May 21, 2006 5:27:52 AM Ignore GTO Joe Report Abuse This is an easy one,a no brainer. Give it to him now, no vote needed, it's Ovechkin! Crosby's good, but not like Alex. Go Red Wings! They will be back.
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,786 Points:307,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2006 11:14:05 AM Ignore TDice Report Abuse you're a wise man Finger...I am jealous of your team in the playoffs. They are definitely the hottest team right now.
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,786 Points:307,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2006 6:59:14 AM Ignore TDice Report Abuse Hey GM, you gotta be kidding me with that comment. More rounded? Alexander never met a check (other than a paycheck) that he liked. He plays no defense whatsoever. How many of the 52 were shorthanded? As a pure goal scorer, he is a human highlight film, but I'll take Kid Sid on my team any day of the week. Sidsational will make a star out of players like Colby Armstrong and Andy Hilbert. We'll see how their career stats will compare.
GM Moderator	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2006 8:51:07 AM Ignore GM Report Abuse Ovechkin. He's more well-rounded.
CAR42 Champion Author Ontario Posts:15,353 Points:1,415,180 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 26, 2006 4:45:27 AM Ignore CAR42 Report Abuse Crosby
mrksn Champion Author New Jersey Posts:13,669 Points:2,705,235 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 23, 2006 9:41:31 PM Ignore mrksn Report Abuse Voting will go: Ovechkin, Crosby, Lundqvist
Rookie6 Rookie Author Michigan Posts:7 Points:3,190 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Apr 23, 2006 8:04:07 PM Ignore Rookie6 Report Abuse I give it to AO
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,786 Points:307,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2006 8:20:30 PM Ignore TDice Report Abuse hey Joey with 3 games left, it is not out of the realm of possibility that Kid Sid will catch and pass Alexander for the rookie scoring title. The only thing that sways the total is that Ovechkin has way more goals.
SAIT Degree Champion Author Calgary Posts:10,933 Points:3,712,950 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Apr 13, 2006 8:58:36 PM Ignore SAIT Degree Report Abuse Phaneuf scores game winner tonight against the Avs and records his 20th goal of the season. Kipper gets 10th shutout of the season. No goalie even comes close to his stats. Goaltending Leaders
joed051 Sophomore Author West Virginia Posts:136 Points:11,910 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 13, 2006 2:08:45 PM Ignore joed051 Report Abuse I have to say I would vote for Crosby because Ovechkin's rookie year was supposed to be last year. But in the end the point difference will persuade everyone to vote for the Capital's star. Hopefully he will be the youngest to get to 100 points. Go Pens. (well maybe next year lol)
longhorn90 Champion Author Austin Posts:13,740 Points:2,786,455 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Apr 13, 2006 4:53:09 AM Ignore longhorn90 Report Abuse I still say Ovechkin
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,429 Points:3,330,230 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Apr 12, 2006 9:21:35 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Crosby could become youngest to hit 100 [Edited by: SUV4GUY at 4/13/2006 12:22:09 AM EST]
RYSIOBAZYLI Rookie Author Toronto Posts:36 Points:560,995 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Apr 12, 2006 5:38:17 AM Ignore RYSIOBAZYLI Report Abuse OVECHKIN
Wee Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,379 Points:1,112,375 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 9, 2006 9:32:07 PM Ignore Wee Report Abuse Lundqvist
trainjunkie47 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,082 Points:1,311,430 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 9, 2006 9:20:50 PM Ignore trainjunkie47 Report Abuse Ovechkin
SAIT Degree Champion Author Calgary Posts:10,933 Points:3,712,950 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Apr 9, 2006 11:18:57 AM Ignore SAIT Degree Report Abuse True I am a Flames fan but that doesn't mean that Phaneuf is not a top 3 candidate for the Calder trophy. Look at Phaneuf's stats and you see that the hockey analysts compare him to a Scott Stevens and some traits of Bobby Orr. Phauef can do it all! Alot of the hockey analysts said the same thing, if it wasn't for Alex and Sid, Phaneuf would win hands down. Do you actually watch hockey on TV, follow it online or even go to the games??? Phaneuf so far has scored 19 goals which broke the Flames rookie record be a defense man. Gary Suter's record in fact and Suter became an all-star. Phaneuf's 19 goals ties him with Phili Housley for 3rd on the all time scoring for rookie D-men. Phaneuf has the 2nd most goals by any defense men in the 05-06 NHL season so far. Only MATHIEU SCHNEIDER has more goals, and that is because he plays for an offensive team. The Flames are extremely defensive, so 19 goals is an incredible feat by a Flames Defense man, not to mention a rookie. Stats
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,429 Points:3,330,230 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Apr 9, 2006 10:46:52 AM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Alexander Ovechkin GP = 76 G = 48 A = 51 PTS = 99 Sidney Crosby GP = 76 G = 36 A = 55 PTS = 91
RYSIOBAZYLI Rookie Author Toronto Posts:36 Points:560,995 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 2, 2006 5:49:43 AM Ignore RYSIOBAZYLI Report Abuse OVECHKIN
Handiman Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:17,432 Points:3,110,750 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 1, 2006 6:33:04 PM Ignore Handiman Report Abuse Cros
driveonfume Champion Author Toronto Posts:8,970 Points:1,528,790 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2006 4:11:49 PM Ignore driveonfume Report Abuse Ovechkin
driveonfume Champion Author Toronto Posts:8,970 Points:1,528,790 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2006 4:11:41 PM Ignore driveonfume Report Abuse Ovechkin
longhorn90 Champion Author Austin Posts:13,740 Points:2,786,455 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2006 7:30:24 AM Ignore longhorn90 Report Abuse It's close, but I say Ovechkin gets it.
SAIT Degree Champion Author Calgary Posts:10,933 Points:3,712,950 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2006 12:20:10 PM Ignore SAIT Degree Report Abuse TDice... two seasons ago. :) 2003 Jackson from the Blues. 1997 Berard from the Islanders 1989 Leetch from the Rangers 1986 Suter from the Flames I think you meant to say that it is uncommon for a D-man to win, and I agree. If it wasn't for Sid and Alex, Phaneuf would be a shoe-in. Maybe Phaneuf will take home the Norris trophy.
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,786 Points:307,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2006 11:44:15 AM Ignore TDice Report Abuse Hey guys, when talking about hockey in Pgh. nowadays, we gotta speak up when we can. In actuality, Crosby has outplayed Alexander "3" times this season when playing head to head (all Pens wins). Kolzig can't beat us if his life depended on it. SAIT; only got to see Dion play live here once this season. I agree that he is super, but when was the last time a defenseman won the Calder?
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,429 Points:3,330,230 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2006 7:49:59 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse icekings ... Crosby 1G 1A Ovechkin 1G Both were 0 for +/- Like icguy said, it is one game - the season is 82 games ...
icguy Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,964 Points:754,450 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2006 6:38:49 PM Ignore icguy Report Abuse so?? he had one good game, big deal.
icguy Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,964 Points:754,450 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2006 1:48:57 PM Ignore icguy Report Abuse Its ovechkin, no question. Not only has he scored a lot more goals than Sid the kid, he has way more game winning goals and game turners. And Sidney had the opportunity of playing on a line with Palffy for many games and didnt do much.
SAIT Degree Champion Author Calgary Posts:10,933 Points:3,712,950 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2006 1:00:27 PM Ignore SAIT Degree Report Abuse Like to see either Crosby or Ovechkin come down the wing against Phaneuf... Phaneuf would end thier season with a massive body check into the boards. Phaneuf, Rookie of the Year!
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,786 Points:307,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2006 11:03:08 AM Ignore TDice Report Abuse Do you fellas think that the Olympic tourny will tire out Ovechkin and/or will it make Crosby rusty? I think whoever leads the rookies in scoring will win the Rookie of the Year.
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,429 Points:3,330,230 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2006 10:04:49 AM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Alexander Ovechkin GP=54 G=35 A=33 PTS=68 Sidney Crosby GP=57 G=27 A=36 PTS=63
nsbikerider Champion Author Halifax Posts:3,591 Points:640,865 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2006 3:59:28 PM Ignore nsbikerider Report Abuse I am stil going to say Crosby
RYSIOBAZYLI Rookie Author Toronto Posts:36 Points:560,995 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2006 5:41:01 AM Ignore RYSIOBAZYLI Report Abuse OVECHKIN
kuczera Champion Author Hamilton Posts:6,635 Points:1,086,025 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2006 7:25:48 PM Ignore kuczera Report Abuse Between those two, Ovechkin. I'm a Crosby supporter but so far Ovechkin has been more impressive.
Roadieboy Champion Author Regina Posts:16,145 Points:2,934,455 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2006 10:22:14 AM Ignore Roadieboy Report Abuse It is still too close to call.
trainjunkie47 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,082 Points:1,311,430 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2006 11:52:27 AM Ignore trainjunkie47 Report Abuse Sorry Sid, you are already a good player who will only get better. Ovechkin has you beat many times over.
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,786 Points:307,675 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2006 8:00:17 AM Ignore TDice Report Abuse What are you 2 guys up in Canada smokin up there? Crosby has better players on his team? That must be why if not for the Blues, the Pens would be looking at their 3RD OVERALL #1 pick in the last 4 years! Ovechkin is very good, don't get me wrong. It's that he should have been last years ROY, but thanks to the lockout he'll battle Kid Sid to the end.
SAIT Degree Champion Author Calgary Posts:10,933 Points:3,712,950 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2006 8:46:53 PM Ignore SAIT Degree Report Abuse Sweet goal.
trevfishns Champion Author Halifax Posts:1,023 Points:182,955 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2006 10:54:30 AM Ignore trevfishns Report Abuse WOW!!!! what a goal
Canucks_Rule Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,090 Points:225,375 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2006 9:47:31 AM Ignore Canucks_Rule Report Abuse wow! did anyone see ovechikin's goal yesterday? amzaing! perhaps best of the season
captcoal All-Star Author Wilmington Posts:882 Points:163,225 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2006 7:14:17 PM Ignore captcoal Report Abuse Antero Nittymaki :)
Roadrobber Champion Author Ontario Posts:13,781 Points:1,880,300 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2006 4:17:28 PM Ignore Roadrobber Report Abuse So far, Ovechkin should get the rookie and MVP honours. I tell you what...name me one other player on the Captials. Ovechkin is carrying this team on his shoulders and is deserving of both the rookie and MVP so far. Crosby, on the other hand, is on a team loaded with stars and he's not doing as good as Ovechkin. If Crosby was carrying the load that Ovechkin is carrying in Washington, he would have crumpled by now. My vote: OVECHKIN. ps: I'm a Flyers fan by the way so no vested interest in Ovechkin or Crosby here.
Canucks_Rule Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,090 Points:225,375 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2006 1:41:48 PM Ignore Canucks_Rule Report Abuse how about svatos? this kid is good
tim2mic Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:1,119 Points:230,370 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2006 10:42:14 AM Ignore tim2mic Report Abuse im from ns so go sidney
longhorn90 Champion Author Austin Posts:13,740 Points:2,786,455 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2006 9:08:14 AM Ignore longhorn90 Report Abuse Ovechkin is having a pretty darn good year
RYSIOBAZYLI Rookie Author Toronto Posts:36 Points:560,995 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2006 2:14:00 PM Ignore RYSIOBAZYLI Report Abuse OVECHKIN
J47514326 Champion Author Ontario Posts:22,019 Points:3,686,980 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2006 8:10:48 AM Ignore J47514326 Report Abuse Hey don't forget them too Petr Prucha : 21 goals with NY Rangers Marek Svatos : 26 goals with Colorado Andrej Meszaros : + 25 with Ottawa Antero Nittymaki 17-5-4 with Phily [Edited by: J47514326 at 1/13/2006 11:11:31 AM EST]
captcoal All-Star Author Wilmington Posts:882 Points:163,225 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 7, 2006 7:06:06 PM Ignore captcoal Report Abuse OVECHKIN for the same reason, Name one other good player on the caps!
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,429 Points:3,330,230 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2006 6:21:56 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Looks good ;o)