crep1291

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2012 7:25:25 AM
And I bet those public high-speed charging stations will be very happy to have customers waiting around for 15-20 minutes!
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lesndave

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 8:21:20 PM
Way too much $$$$$
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kkimes

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 6:34:12 PM
"Spend $40k to save $1k-Obama economics"
Oh, you got your car for free? And you're keeping it less than a year? Wonderful, I'm happy for you.
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car253

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 5:05:06 PM
Too much money for way too little benefit.
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bwatchingu

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 4:26:55 PM
Spend $40k to save $1k-Obama economics
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PDQBlues

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 12:36:48 PM
tnfran: But where in the article does it mention about the factors of elec production and its 'impact on the environment' ??? I think the article is weighted lopsidedly.
Not at all. It makes good sense and far easier (and more economical) to address the pollution problem of one source most effectively then to try to address the little pollution problems of all the cars being driven.
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tnfran

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 11:41:44 AM
The article mentions about elec vehicles "For electric vehicles, the study also considered such things as the energy used and pollution created while mining coal." But where in the article does it mention about the factors of elec production and its 'impact on the environment' ??? I think the article is weighted lopsidedly.
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dsaine

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 11:35:46 AM
Not 4 me.
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buckets42

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 11:24:18 AM
So why not power cars with ng?
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Gas_Eyes

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 11:18:40 AM
Analysis using averages like this is not valid. It assumes that because a certain percentage of electricity is produced from coal, that same percentage of electricity will still be generated from coal, the most environmentally harmful source. The new EV's will be using new electricity that has not yet been produced. Therefore the question will have to be asked how this electricity will be generated from.
In most places no new coal fired generators are being installed. Most new additional electricity are being produced runs on natural gas which is the cleanest burning fossil fuel. Therefore new EV's will most likely be using electricity generated from natural gas.
EV's therefore are green. There is no question about this.
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doeslayersr

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 10:53:23 AM
fracknsave - your comment is on the mark!
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tmon6219

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 10:47:51 AM
Amazing how they never mention how long these batteries are supposed to last or how much it will cost to replace them.
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fracknsave

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 10:46:00 AM
The harder they try to sway public opinion, the more irrelevant they become.
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ObieDog

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 10:36:43 AM
Everyone is an expert.
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Skunk63

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 10:16:42 AM
The Union of Concerned Scientists? OMG, I just stopped reading right there. You can't make this stuff up.
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Yooperheart

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 9:44:41 AM
And I'm going to dump my paid for ride, to save 1k over a year? And spend 40k to do it plus higher insurance tab?
W T F are they thinking.
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djwhit

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 8:48:59 AM
GREAT......
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