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eromitlab Champion Author Huntsville Posts:7,311 Points:1,451,160 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 12:42:12 AM Ignore eromitlab Report Abuse ACKNOWLEDGING that it makes little sense to spend billions to develop electric cars if charging their batteries produces roughly the same amount of carbon dioxide as the most efficient gasoline models, some European automakers are investing directly in renewable energy. Wind farms, solar installations, hydroelectric power and so-called e-gas plants are among the experiments intended to demonstrate that zero-carbon transportation can be a viable alternative. In Germany, several recent studies commissioned by the federal environment ministry concluded that in order for electric vehicles to help reduce the levels of greenhouse gases being produced, additional sources of renewably generated electricity must be created. Visit The New York Times for full article

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ACKNOWLEDGING that it makes little sense to spend billions to develop electric cars if charging their batteries produces roughly the same amount of carbon dioxide as the most efficient gasoline models, some European automakers are investing directly in renewable energy.

Wind farms, solar installations, hydroelectric power and so-called e-gas plants are among the experiments intended to demonstrate that zero-carbon transportation can be a viable alternative.

In Germany, several recent studies commissioned by the federal environment ministry concluded that in order for electric vehicles to help reduce the levels of greenhouse gases being produced, additional sources of renewably generated electricity must be created.
Visit The New York Times for full article

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dave27johnson Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,787 Points:406,700 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 8:05:16 AM Ignore dave27johnson Report Abuse Smart.
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Meowmy Champion Author Florida Posts:1,293 Points:348,105 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 1:56:12 PM Ignore Meowmy Report Abuse If you have any exercise equipment, why not use it to help charge your car?
ziyulu Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,485 Points:1,600,420 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 12:15:22 PM Ignore ziyulu Report Abuse It's homegrown, do you have to add pesticides? If not, then it must be all natural and organic.
tnfran Champion Author Arizona Posts:4,368 Points:840,240 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 11:36:18 AM Ignore tnfran Report Abuse This makes more sense anyway, as long as the technology is there to make electricity from natural resources the better.
dhdiesel Veteran Author Riverside Posts:400 Points:44,800 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 9:55:13 AM Ignore dhdiesel Report Abuse Whatever. Batteries are still old technology. In 200 years, they haven't improved the toxic battery that much... Battery technology: invented by Alessandro Volta in 1800. Whatever happened to "clean" hydrogen fuel tech? Why the new emphasis on old battery and PV tech and the apparent abandonment of hydrogen?
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,478 Points:730,625 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:29:59 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Yes my thoughts burn carbon to generate power for Electric cars does not solve problems.
mightyace Champion Author Tennessee Posts:4,258 Points:842,285 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:02:14 AM Ignore mightyace Report Abuse Banned is a little extreme. If you want them adopted long term, they should be available everywhere. Then people can get in the habit of using them even if they aren't helping in the short term. This will have a bigger long term benefit.
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,337 Points:162,700 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:59:01 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Finally someone is starting to realize that electric cars should be banned in areas where electricity is produced by burning coal and oil.
mightyace Champion Author Tennessee Posts:4,258 Points:842,285 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:56:08 AM Ignore mightyace Report Abuse Well, no transportation is zero carbon if there is a human inside as we exhale carbon dioxide. Begin sarcasm: Hey everyone, cut your carbon footprint. Stop breathing! End sarcasm [Edited by: mightyace at 4/14/2012 10:57:14 AM EST]
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imcheep Champion Author New Mexico Posts:2,477 Points:646,905 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 5:49:16 AM Ignore imcheep Report Abuse It makes little sense to spend billions to develop electric cars if charging their batteries produces roughly the same amount of carbon dioxide as the most efficient gasoline models.
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MetroSexual Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,004 Points:316,380 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 4:47:42 AM Ignore MetroSexual Report Abuse The Germans are putting us to shame in the alternative power arenas. When I see the naysayers spouting how foolish the idea of alternatives is, I can't help but believe we are now on the outside looking in on this technology and will be completely left out in the cold.
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,706 Points:1,689,930 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 4:47:31 AM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse Not everybody is convinced that the dabbling of German carmakers in renewable energies is visionary or even sincere.
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