reb4

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 5:16:26 AM
some of the numbers on bigger vehicles are not realistic to the way most people drive them...
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lesndave

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 8:34:07 PM
Hmmmmm. The car I bought in 1995 got an average of 28 mpg (33 on hwy). Now the newer cars get 24 mpg, and that's up? How does that compute??
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mike1881

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Fayetteville
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 3:28:30 PM
20 percent increase will only help if gas prices drop or remained the same since 2007.
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dgerst

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:52:37 PM
Funny how a government bail-out put pressure on auto mfrs.
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07skydriver

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:38:27 PM
I had a 2002 Grand Prix that got 33 mpg highway. A comparably sized new car is not much better.
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fowlcan

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:34:51 PM
It is good the mpg is up 20%. Now what is the catch?
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:19:17 PM
It's an improvement.
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dh0770

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:15:41 PM
Ooohhh, I'm tingling with anticipation!
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orphancarguyPE

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PEI
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 11:41:58 AM
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics LOL! 20% increase sounds wonderful, until you see the base line. From 20 to 24 US mpg--not all that impressive, but put as 20%, it sounds fantastic!
If you want 50 mpg now, just buy a used pre-2007 VW diesel, preferably with a manual transmission. I bought a used wagon for much less than half the cost of a new one, and which now has over 218K km (ie, 136,000 miles) and the darn thing just keeps on chugging away, getting 66+ mpg (ie, 55+ US gallon mpg) in the summer, and bottoming out at about 50+ mpg (ie, 42 US gallon mpg) in very cold snowy weather, with snow tires on). Thats with loading it up, driving too fast, towing trailers, stop and go in city, all mixed--so that is as bad as it gets.
DON'T get one with an automatic (they tend to be crap with diesels), and drive it like you stole it as the saying goes, every once in a while, and it will last you decades. Diesels do, given half a chance. The post 2006 VW diesels still cost too much, and have way too much hp so the mileage isn't as high. Trust me, you can drive an older diesel VW TDI at well over 125 mph if you can get away with it, so the extra hp isn't needed.
If you like an automatic, then get a used Prius, and drive the wheels off it for a few hundred thousand--just don't drive it too fast, because their mileage starts sucking the more and faster you drive it over 60 mph. Still very good for a car, just not as good for a hybrid. If you drive fast and on the highway most of the time, get a diesel, not a gasoline-electric hybrid. They are the most reliable hybrids going, as a taxi fleet out in British Columbia has proved. http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110125/bc_olsen_prius_reliability_110125/20110125?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
note, over a million kilometers is over 620,000 MILES. 700,000 km on a battery pack is 435,000 MILES
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lcleveland

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 11:31:08 AM
ok
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eomc17

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 11:12:20 AM
Since I got to Tucson about six weeks ago, I have seen more older.and rusty vehicles than in many years before. I just don't think most people here have the money to buy a pricey new car. My previous roomies in New Mexico have. A gas guzzling Yukon, would love to buy a new car, but their life situation and high gas prices sap most of the income after rent, food, and high medical expenses. Many of us are broke, myslef included. So I ride public transportation for 42$ a month and show vbig oil and speculators the bird.
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ned23

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 10:12:37 AM
I want 50 mpg. And I want it now!
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Yooperheart

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 10:04:35 AM
How many H-1 Hummers are still on the road? FERD Expedition Chevy Avalanche We could go on for awhile, but the trend is down size. Not many road guzzlers left.
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Dennis783

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Des Moines
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 9:54:19 AM
that's something I guess
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ObieDog

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 9:45:21 AM
Keep it up.
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sjf238

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 9:06:46 AM
Good.
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fuel2use

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 8:12:54 AM
Good to hear, but you must afford.
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peakkeller

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:58:42 AM
The cash for clunkers program must have helped raise the average mileage.
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djwhit

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:50:54 AM
NOT ALL ARE THAT..............
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EricBrazil

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Miami
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:34:28 AM
THe comparison goes... if cars had evolved as computers we'd pay have for twice as much and they'd get 100 mpg...
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asog75

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:33:45 AM
just dangling carrots,it should be in the 40mpg range,just look at the advances in the computer,you cant tell me some one is not smart enough to increase gas efficency!!!
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Ltdc

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:24:06 AM
That's not as much as the price of gas is up!
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uglytom

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Florida
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:24:00 AM
Keep increasing!
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graceman

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:13:42 AM
It still needs to get higher.
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BuckyTJones

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:12:19 AM
My gas mileage would go up 10% if I did not have to use ethanol!!
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Charley_7

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New York
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:10:33 AM
Good news. Wonder how long until gas mileage is up by 50 percent...
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:02:58 AM
Unfortunately, some people will see this as a negative..... (grin)
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car253

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:01:01 AM
Good news.
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