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scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jun 20, 2011 7:13:56 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse A proposal New members must earn 35,000 via posting prices and be active (posting prices) for 60 consecutive days prior being able to start any topic in any thread in the forums. This would help eliminate the numerous topics we have about the exact same subject and force new members to become more familiar with the entire site. Thoughts?????

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A proposal

New members must earn 35,000 via posting prices and be active (posting prices) for 60 consecutive days prior being able to start any topic in any thread in the forums.

This would help eliminate the numerous topics we have about the exact same subject and force new members to become more familiar with the entire site.

Thoughts?????

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kwzh Champion Author San Jose Posts:20,665 Points:3,685,555 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2011 9:16:38 PM Ignore kwzh Report Abuse stanleyvision writes, > [evidently one of five fluff posts for the day] More evidence against.
stanleyvision All-Star Author San Diego Posts:869 Points:439,595 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2011 8:18:41 PM Ignore stanleyvision Report Abuse Good Idea
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2011 3:14:33 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse lwren1367 and SUVFan are hijacking the thread! Report 'em Scrapheap!
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2011 1:52:49 PM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse lwren1367 and SUVFan are spot on. Are you finally admitting that you yourself are guilty of doing what you are complaining newbies do? Are you going to eat a crow pie? [Edited by: Scrapheap at 7/23/2011 4:54:56 PM EST]
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 23, 2011 1:16:17 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Maybe lwren1367 should be reported for hijacking this thread. But I'm not gonna do that! There are others who will do that! Plus it adds to the discussion. My starting this thread has nothing to do with seeing my name at the top! New people can ask questions! No one is trying to prevent that. Is it time for pie?
SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:13,928 Points:1,635,525 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2011 6:52:19 AM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse <Sounds like the same thing to me. > Lwren1367 is spot on here. The lead post in this thread would have been a perfect fit in the original thread on this subject. The chief difference I see is that a different member's screen name would have appeared at the top of the SAWSI thread list each time someone posted a response. Threads with considerably less commonality to an existing thread have been closed repeatedly, even when one was in SAWSI and the other in TBTU. >Similar topic but with an actual suggestion on how to restrict new members from staring topics. < If you accept that justification for this topic, then when a newbie posts a question about a gas prize, you have to cut them some slack, too, because they are not asking about the same prize as a previous thread. Or when someone starts a new thread because of a mixup in the current week's poll, since a similar thread from the last time that happened was based on an old poll, not the new one. Or -- here's the clincher -- how about when someone posts an idea about expanding the points system that is not exactly the same as a previous one?
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2011 6:31:18 AM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse While it is very close to the topic that was created on Apr 29, 2011. This question would of been better suited to be asked there, in a ongoing discussion about this issue instead of starting a new topic. The new people should be able to ask guestions with out senior members of this site comming down on them. Many times following by the example of senior members. You should practice what you preach. Oh, BTW, you are welcome! [Edited by: lwren1367 at 7/22/2011 9:39:53 AM EST]
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2011 5:56:49 AM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse Sounds like the same thing to me. Anyone else want to vote?
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 22, 2011 5:09:34 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Similar topic but with an actual suggestion on how to restrict new members from staring topics. Thanks for chiming in with a positive comment lwren1367. [Edited by: scoutmaster at 7/22/2011 8:11:06 AM EST]
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 21, 2011 9:08:20 AM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse Abuse reported, and requested that this thread be locked. The starter on this thread has been an active particapint in a thread titled "restrict newbie from starting threads" that was started on Apr 29, 2011. he/she posted May 2, Jun 23, and Jun 24. On Jun 20, 2011 he started this thread. Something he/she is acussing all the new people of this site to be guilty of, starting repeat threads.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 21, 2011 4:06:17 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse One more thing Scrapheap. Trolls come into topics to pick fights. Your latest postings fit that bill.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 10:45:30 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Psst - Scrapheap - you hijacked this topic! Does that make you a hypocrite?
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 10:24:51 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse You should really heed your own words Scrapheap. You can be blunt without resorting to name calling. [Edited by: scoutmaster at 7/20/2011 1:25:45 PM EST]
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 9:01:08 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse Hey, I'm just being honest and blunt. Nothing hypocritical about that. And as I've said act like a reasonable person and you will be treated as one. You should try it sometime and see how it turns out. [Edited by: Scrapheap at 7/20/2011 12:02:16 PM EST]
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 8:58:40 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Well, Scrapheap, you continue to call me names yet I don't respond by calling you names so who is the real hypocrite?
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,400 Points:4,125,580 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 8:48:18 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> I find it hypocritical of them to hijack threads and attack new people on a regular basis. Pot. Kettle. Black. [Edited by: bytebug at 7/20/2011 11:49:06 AM EST]
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 8:19:53 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse "Even if they think they know what is best for this site, I find it hypocritical of them to hijack threads and attack new people on a regular basis. I really don't care how many points they have." Guess you are in that hypocritical group since you resort to name calling, Scrapheap. [Edited by: scoutmaster at 7/20/2011 11:21:02 AM EST]
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 8:17:56 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse Even if they think they know what is best for this site, I find it hypocritical of them to hijack threads and attack new people on a regular basis. I really don't care how many points they have. They aren't solving a problem so much as they are covering up multiple problems. It is like treating tuberculosis with cough medicine, might treat some symptoms but doesn't treat the core issues, or even acknowledge them. [Edited by: Scrapheap at 7/20/2011 11:20:50 AM EST]
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,986 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 8:11:38 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse lwren1367: I won't disagree that some members are opinionated, but most of those that are opinionated, the ones you're referring to (I don't know if you include me or not as having nothing positive to say) give a damn about this website, and have been some of the strongest supporters of the site, posting gas prices regularly, as well as taking responsibility for their comments. You and I may disagree wtih them, and they may disagree with our views, but they're positive about what they think is best for this website. I disagree with the original premise of this thread, though I understand it and could ultimately accept it, and I disagree with some of the related comments/upgrade/restrictions, but I try to understand their perspective. I think they're pretty much positive, even if I don't agree with them.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 6:19:07 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Nothing positive? Sot some facts to back that claim up, lwren1367?
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 5:51:18 AM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse MANDAVIS925, welcome to gas buddy. You are right! As you read though the forms, you will notice that it is the same 5 to 10 people that are long time members that complain about everything and have nothing positive to say. Kind of like crying wolf. Keep posting, and enjoy the site!
mandavis925 Rookie Author Minnesota Posts:53 Points:83,370 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2011 4:38:21 AM Ignore mandavis925 Report Abuse I'm a pretty new member, and I have started a topic, but it actually had something to do with gas/driving/this site rather than Name a Town or playing an alphabet game (although I am guilty of responding to those). What I hate to see is the nonsense replies that people put on here just to earn points. I'm talking about those who post five replies in a row and they are just single numbers, like "1". I'd rather see the replies policed more for content than worry about a start to a topic.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2011 1:33:38 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Have you seen how many topics about the same thing have been started? A lot but not all by new members.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,986 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2011 9:39:30 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse scoutmaster wrote: "My proposal is for 35,000 points and 60 consecutive days posting. Once both are met, new topics can be started!" I might consider the cutoff for starting a topic to be that you have to be a points listed member (i.e., 35,000 points) but 60 consecutive days posting to me is excessive. I don't think I'd want any "consecutive days posting" requirement. People have more important things to do than be on a website X number of days, day after day after day, just for the "privilege" (my word) of starting a topic for discussion. If a member joins in October, should they be required to post on Thanksgiving Day in order to continue their streak? If they join in December, should they be required to post on Christmas or New Year's Day? If they join in May, should they be required to post on the day they're concerned about their child's graduation ceremony, or June wedding, or during their vacation? I'm attending a funeral in two days; should the streak be so important that I feel I have to post on that day in order that I don't miss a consecutive day and have to start over from zero days? Let me ask it this way: What is so special about starting a topic - not is is special, but SO special that we (Gas Buddy) should have a 100,000 point requirment or a 60 consecutive day requirement? Are the topics THAT IMPORTANT in the scheme of things? And if they are, shouldn't there be a requirment that people are identified (rather than anonymous) in order that they be held responsible for their comments? Why not, and I'm not sure how to broach this, have certain level members, members of "standing" be able to pull or remove inappropriate topics; something to the effect of a mini-moderator?
aoklman Champion Author Texas Posts:2,812 Points:405,025 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2011 8:21:42 AM Ignore aoklman Report Abuse >>>"More evidence that the rookie problem is not confined to, nor perhaps even correlated with, the starting of new topics."<<< I agree, but also for every symptom mentioned here as the "rookie problem", I can point to hundreds of post by old-timers (with high points and high post count), guilty of the exact same thing. So it seems it it not so much a rookie problem as it is just a personality (or type of mentality) problem. So what are we going to do?...Shut the site down because some people don't post the way some of us think they should? No system is perfect, but the site has a reasonable set of rules to make it enjoyable by the masses, there are going to be some people who bend and even break the rules at times, and no amount of adding new rules and restrictions will ever stop that.
SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:13,928 Points:1,635,525 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2011 7:00:37 AM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse >But if they can't start another topic about why the prize winners aren't posted yet, maybe they will look for the answer. That is the intent.< I doubt it. My guess is that they will simply post their question in some other thread, essentially hijacking that thread. Of course the mods could remove that post and caution the member, but anybody that's paid attention knows that site "improvements" are typically things that make the mod squad's life easier, not harder. That's as it should be. Requiring anything more than the first car to start threads seems likely to cause far more problems than it solves. Requiring a car is probably about break even on the hassle/reward scale, which probably points to a no change decision.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 19, 2011 3:17:18 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse No you can't make them look. But if they can't start another topic about why the prize winners aren't posted yet, maybe they will look for the answer. That is the intent. You will never stop people from posting in the wrong topic or spamming a topic. All we can do when that happens is report them to the moderators. "More evidence that the rookie problem is not confined to, nor perhaps even correlated with, the starting of new topics." There is way more evidence to support this idea.
kwzh Champion Author San Jose Posts:20,665 Points:3,685,555 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 9:06:30 PM Ignore kwzh Report Abuse lynnswheeler has posted one new topic, but six follow-up messages to other topics, all of them attempts to spam a link, even when nominally on topic. elsewhere, tedUT writes one-word replies like "when", as content-free follow-ups. More evidence that the rookie problem is not confined to, nor perhaps even correlated with, the starting of new topics.
kwzh Champion Author San Jose Posts:20,665 Points:3,685,555 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 8:53:50 PM Ignore kwzh Report Abuse scoutmaster writes, > What it will do is make them look for the answers to their questions. kwzh writes, > Did you read my post of Jul 14, 2011 xx:09:47 in this thread? scoutmaster writes, > Yes I did kwzh. What's your point? My point is that you can't "make them look"; as I stated last time, it doesn't work that way. And I would bet heavily in favor of the outcome being worse than now, rather than better.
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 12:07:21 PM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse Maybe you should put this in Suggest an Opinion Poll, in the talk back to us section, as a preposed question. Take some time to compose the question and think up some answers. Then the team can hash it out and improve the question and answers. This way the entire active population of Gas buddy would be able to vote and voice there views. You would get the true view of what the members of this site think at that point
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 12:07:19 PM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse Maybe you should put this in Suggest an Opinion Poll, in the talk back to us section, as a preposed question. Take some time to compose the question and think up some answers. Then the team can hash it out and improve the question and answers. This way the entire active population of Gas buddy would be able to vote and voice there views. You would get the true view of what the members of this site think at that point
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 10:52:29 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse "Going back thru and reading all form entries, there are 9 people who one might consider agree with you. That is less than 1% of the people on the site top 10,000 list." Of the roughly 26 people who posted in this topics, 35% (based on your count) could be considered to agree with me. Those other 9,974 haven't posted in this topic.No one is saying new members have nothing to say! They will still be able to post in topics.
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 10:36:45 AM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse >>They have lwren1367<< Going back thru and reading all form entries, there are 9 people who one might consider agree with you. That is less than 1% of the people on the site top 10,000 list. I think you all are in the minority on this. I believe you are going to need more a a following than that for the mods to even consider it. It is good for the New people to post, and start new topics. If you take away all of the rights and things the new people can do on the site, the site will not grow. After all this site is about making money for the people who run it. And they will continue to do what it takes to do so even though less than 1% of the people are unhappy about something. [Edited by: lwren1367 at 7/18/2011 1:41:21 PM EST]
bowler93 All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:724 Points:461,700 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 9:12:34 AM Ignore bowler93 Report Abuse I disagree because just because a member is new doesn't mean they don't have anything worth saying.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 8:43:43 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse They have lwren1367.
lwren1367 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:9,177 Points:1,334,305 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 8:36:01 AM Ignore lwren1367 Report Abuse >>I'm not arguing, Scrapheap. I'm just refuting every argument you have started Scrapheap. There are other beside bytebug and myself who feel this is a good idea.<< Then why are they not here voicing their views?
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 18, 2011 2:15:31 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Yes I did kwzh. What's your point?
kwzh Champion Author San Jose Posts:20,665 Points:3,685,555 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2011 10:15:21 PM Ignore kwzh Report Abuse scoutmaster writes, > What it will do is make them look for the answers to their questions. Did you read my post of Jul 14, 2011 xx:09:47 in this thread?
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2011 11:47:39 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse I'm not arguing, Scrapheap. I'm just refuting every argument you have started Scrapheap. There are other beside bytebug and myself who feel this is a good idea.
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2011 6:20:46 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse I meant back of the the parts that everyone except bytebug have described at onerous and excessive(35K points and 60 consecutive days of posting prices) to demonstrate that you actually can and want to discuss the an idea. Right now it seems all you want to do is argue.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2011 4:17:02 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse I have backed off the original idea. Posted it a little while ago. I'll post it again just for you Scrapheap. New Members can start topics in the Just For Fun and Games & Trivia threads. There ya go! It makes me chuckle when I read some of you posts Scrapheap! In the this one Message Posted: Jul 17, 2011 2:08:39 AM you claim new members are apt to post crap instead of good stuff! In other topics and even this one you claim new members would not post as you have suggested! Which is it?
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 11:15:48 PM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse Scoutmaster - From what I have seen, everyone other than bytebug has found your suggestion excessive. Why don't you show a little bit of reasonableness and back off of the original idea?
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 11:08:39 PM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse aoklman wrote > Scrapheap, I can't imagine what kind of logic you are using to arrive at this supposition, Well, I think that if someone is not allowed to start a thread unless he has 100 posts, he will fall into one of the following 5 categories. 1) He will follow the rules and actually engage in 100 useful posts. 2) He will post 100 pieces of junk in a JFF type of thread. 3) He will simply hijack a thread since he will not be allowed to create his own thread. 4) He will post enough junk messages anywhere to get his post count above the threshold. Now the rosy scenario is number 1, which I think is unlikely. An acceptable scenario is number 2, but if people won't look around for an existing thread now, what makes you think the will be considerate enough to avoid posting junk in a non- junk thread? Even if some people do follow 1 or 2, I am pretty sure there will be a number of people who will fall in category 3 or 4. If that happens, that is damaging to the threads. I think any solution should do no harm. I recognize the good intentions behind the suggestion but I also recognize that unintended consequences often result for well intended but not well thought out ideas. aoklman wrote > So whether newbie restriction are applied or not, you are always going to have some that are going to post like that, think about it... hmmm. Well that is obvious. Why impose a restriction that will likely increase that activity? What is wrong with simply requiring members to read a certain number of threads before posting in a forum? Maybe they will find what they are looking for. If nothing else, I do not see how that idea might encourage hijacking or posting junk in non junk threads. [Edited by: Scrapheap at 7/17/2011 2:13:15 AM EST]
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 11:39:56 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse That would be Scrapheap's common sense in action, aoklman! Well, Scrapheap, your examples are not valid and your logic is flawed! Apparently your common sense is a bit off as well. And you seem to have trouble understanding my last post. It's called sarcasm. I'm not missing a thing. It appears, Scrapheap, you are so enraged by this idea you can't see the real value.
aoklman Champion Author Texas Posts:2,812 Points:405,025 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 10:59:47 AM Ignore aoklman Report Abuse >>>If people are not allowed to start threads because they don't meet a post count, I guarantee that the number of worthless "hmm" type of replies will increase in all the forums.<<< Scrapheap, I can't imagine what kind of logic you are using to arrive at this supposition, but I expect that those types of post are for points and/or post count (based on what I have observed as well as personal experience, but I tried to at least post full sentences or if I was in a hurry I would post to a game or jff topic where a single word was expected). So whether newbie restriction are applied or not, you are always going to have some that are going to post like that, think about it... hmmm. If you really want to stop that kind of post, remove points from post in discussion topics. But to do so might make a lot of members mad, as a common routine for many to get their daily points is to click on (probably not read though) the discussion topics and then post a standard hmm, good, I agree, or drill here. If you take away the point earning potential from discussion topics, then only posters who have something to say on the subject will post there, and the just for points people will move on to the jff, games, and other forums. [Edited by: aoklman at 7/16/2011 2:10:04 PM EST]
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 7:15:24 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse scoutmaster wrote > Me thinks the common sense line applies to thee! I'm glad we both agree on one thing, I have common sense. It is a pity you don't since it is an invaluable attribute. You really don't know what you are missing, but maybe that is a good thing. [Edited by: Scrapheap at 7/16/2011 10:18:43 AM EST]
aoklman Champion Author Texas Posts:2,812 Points:405,025 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 6:23:01 AM Ignore aoklman Report Abuse I am running late for work so gotta go, but will be back latter today.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 6:20:00 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Really, Scrapheap. That's all you have? Again, nothing to back up your claims! Me thinks the common sense line applies to thee!
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,561 Points:2,361,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 6:17:26 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse Something you are sorely lacking, common sense.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,374 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 6:16:15 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse "If people are not allowed to start threads because they don't meet a post count, I guarantee that the number of worthless "hmm" type of replies will increase in all the forums." Interesting statement, Scrapheap. What do you have to back up this guarantee? "The post count idea is a non-starter to me." Who suggested this? What would you suggest, aoklman?