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Rob2632 Sophomore Author Oklahoma City Posts:148 Points:14,550 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 9:17:14 PM Ignore Rob2632 Report Abuse Pacific Pride 4200 Roseville Rd & Longview Dr in Sacramento Ca is listed as a fuel station along with the regular stations but is in fact a fleet fueling "club". Is this supposed to be? I can't buy fuel there so I don't care what they are selling it for.

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Pacific Pride 4200 Roseville Rd & Longview Dr in Sacramento Ca is listed as a fuel station along with the regular stations but is in fact a fleet fueling "club". Is this supposed to be? I can't buy fuel there so I don't care what they are selling it for.

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plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 2, 2012 3:05:55 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Makes sense. I use that one several times a day to report the polling topics that are in the Off Topic area. I don't think they really care but I keep reporting.
kwzh Champion Author San Jose Posts:20,631 Points:3,678,650 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:52:12 PM Ignore kwzh Report Abuse plastic writes, > Which reason, in the pulldown box would be used to report bruin? My preference is "Posting in the wrong forum", since fluff belongs in JFF and not here.
SophiaCA Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,727 Points:283,635 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:01:15 AM Ignore SophiaCA Report Abuse not living there so don't know
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 4:13:17 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Which reason, in the pulldown box would be used to report bruin? The first time he/she ran through here, with pointless fluff, I explained, on his/her whiteboard, the purpose of the forum. Bruin erased my message and apparently did it again. Bruin19MD is a sociopath.
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,362 Points:4,120,705 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:27:25 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> You haven't even figured out forum posting yet. And reporting abuse doesn't matter, as the moderators just don't care!
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:45:01 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Of course you're not sure. You haven't even figured out forum posting yet. (There's history behind this.)
bruin19MD Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,052 Points:161,510 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:33:07 PM Ignore bruin19MD Report Abuse not sure
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,948 Points:3,030,065 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 7:36:40 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse I'd be interested in knowing what Rob2632 thinks after all this discussion. I assume he's still following this thread because, after all, as a long-time member and contributor to the website, he wouldn't have started this thread if he wasn't interested in our comments. Would he?
dirt girl Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:35,939 Points:3,068,980 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Apr 21, 2012 1:24:11 AM Ignore dirt girl Report Abuse Regarding the marina comment. I find that most lakes have one or maybe 2 marinas on them. Some resorts have fuel but it's usually reserved for the people staying at that resort. I don't know about the other Great Lakes but I would hazard to guess that most people on Lake Superior aren't going to go looking for the cheapest fuel as there are not that many ports (at least on the MN side). The smaller fishing boats know how far it is to get to their nets and the charters usually have large enough tanks to make it back to port. :)
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 10:23:03 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse That's not considered abuse anymore. I constantly report much worse behavior and nothing ever happens. This is the only fluff post I've noticed from bruin. Oh and why the link to his/her profile? That was an extra and unnecessary trip for me to take- much like pulling into a station to get pump prices :p [Edited by: plastic at 4/21/2012 1:27:34 AM EST]
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,362 Points:4,120,705 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 9:07:40 PM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> Why, bytebug? Bumping a bunch of threads with fluff for points.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 8:10:55 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Why, bytebug?
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,362 Points:4,120,705 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 7:08:37 PM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse bruin19MD reported for abuse…
bruin19MD Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,052 Points:161,510 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 4:57:03 PM Ignore bruin19MD Report Abuse wow
manaknight14 All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:538 Points:426,760 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 10:47:17 AM Ignore manaknight14 Report Abuse We have quite a few Pacific Pride fleet stations in the York area, but they are all indicated with a "cardlock only" attached to their names. This is similar the when you see a Costco or Sam's Club that says "members only" after it. That's the way it ought to be handled, since that way the price is reported but you immediately know you can't fuel up there unless you fit the description.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 8:25:31 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse While propane is a primary fuel for gas grills, some home heating and other equipment, it is an alternate fuel for vehicles. Plus, it is sold a a wide variety of retailers not just gas stations. Again, if you want propane prices, start your own propane site. Hey you could have an alternative fuel site! You could include marine fuel, propane, aircraft fuel, LP gas, etc. You could call it Plastic's Alternate Fuel Buddy. Could be your meal ticket plastic! Sunoco still sells 4 grades plus diesel. It's more common in some areas than others.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 6:49:36 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Very very good points, Scrapheap. I doubt we'll ever see such a change. Years ago, GB asked about including propane prices. Never happend.
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,529 Points:2,355,055 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 6:39:02 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse My limited experience with fleet fueling on GasBuddy goes back to one instance when a station was the lowest price in Virginia by a fairly wide margin. When I looked at the MSL entry, there was a comment that the station was not available to the general public and was for fleet fueling only. There was no way to see that other than accessing the MSL entry. I deleted the price and reported the station to the moderators. I would have no problem with fleet fueling being reported here. After all, the costs businesses incur are passed on to their customers. However, if fleet fueling is included, I think it should be stated clearly that the station is for fleet fueling only. There should be a box in the MSL entry to signify fleet fueling and by default, fleet fueling stations should not be included in a search. Someone searching for fleet fueling should have to perform a search that specifically includes fleet fueling. WRT marinas, I would be okay with those being reported here as well with the same caveats as I noted for fleet fueling (MSL entry box, not automatically included in a search). I would also stipulate that neither fleet fueling nor marinas should be included in the lowest or highest lists on the home page and should not be included in statistics such as the average price of gas in a state. Some time ago I made a suggestion for durable comments in the MSL. Those comments would be automatically included for any price post for a membership priced station like COSTCO or cash only stations regardless of who posted them or how they were posted. This could be extended to fleet fueling stations, marinas and military stations. One qualm I have about fleet fueling and marinas is how often would they be reported? If they are not updated on a frequent basis, what good are they to the consumer looking for prices from these stations?
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 6:29:07 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Marine stations could possibly skew the averages- good point- but they won't. Yes, the prices are high and would be always seen on the home page but they are a very small fraction of the regular stations. Some areas have more boat traffic than car traffic. I'm sure those areas exist in at least Minnesota and Louisiana. Dragster fuel has to be ordered. Do high octane stations still exist in some states? That brings up another question that I think I've seen in GB at one time- What about stations, especially out West, where they don't have 87, 89, 93? I think they have 91 as super. I've also seen 88 and 90. Aircraft fuel- there's probably an aircraft fuel network in place that predates Gasbuddy.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 6:20:04 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse "What could listing those prices possibly hurt except for maybe your ego?" My ego has nothing to do with this. What those listing could hurt is cluttering up the price boards, skewing the averages, etc. If you want marine fuel prices listed, start a marine fuel price site similar to this one. What's next, aircraft fuel and dragster fuel? [Edited by: scoutmaster at 3/27/2012 9:21:04 AM EST]
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 6:08:47 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse On a small lake like Travis you can see the shore and signs easily. On bigger lakes, such as the Great Lakes, there can be a 30 minute ride (in rough weather- 20 minutes at 60mph in good weather) to any station. It'd be nice to pull up the app and see which direction to set the compass to get the best gas price. So, yes, I believe that there is a need to list those on the site. I'll be putting them back on in August when I go. What could listing those prices possibly hurt except for maybe your ego?
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 5:38:32 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Then there is really no need to list those on this site.
ziyulu Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,480 Points:1,598,995 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 5:36:42 AM Ignore ziyulu Report Abuse There are several marinas at Lake Travis in Austin. And the prices are listed on the signs clearly and can be seen from a distance.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 4:37:38 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse How many options are there at the lake?
ziyulu Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,480 Points:1,598,995 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 4:18:17 AM Ignore ziyulu Report Abuse I believe marinas should be listed. If I'm at the lake, I better know where to fill up for less.
Scrapheap Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,529 Points:2,355,055 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 4:17:26 AM Ignore Scrapheap Report Abuse jrsva - Here is an example of fleet fueling in Virginia. I believe that companies like this cater to other companies that do not want to invest in the infrastructure necessary to provide tanks and pumping stations for their fleets of vehicles.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 4:05:10 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Uh, no it isn't. And that link was for .....................?????? "The fuel prices listed on GasBuddy.com are intended to be based on the price of Regular Unleaded Gasoline and Number 2 diesel fuel. The data base is designed to remove prices from display 24 hours after the time that they were entered which helps to keep the price data as current as possible. The GasBuddy system is designed to access the GasBuddy.com database from a remote location and displays the current local low and high fuel prices." I see nothing about marine fuel, airplane fuel, etc.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 4:05:10 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Uh, no it isn't. And that link was for .....................?????? "The fuel prices listed on GasBuddy.com are intended to be based on the price of Regular Unleaded Gasoline and Number 2 diesel fuel. The data base is designed to remove prices from display 24 hours after the time that they were entered which helps to keep the price data as current as possible. The GasBuddy system is designed to access the GasBuddy.com database from a remote location and displays the current local low and high fuel prices." I see nothing about marine fuel, airplane fuel, etc.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,609,325 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 10:23:32 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Someone please tell me what a “fleet station” and a “fleet card” are. I had assumed that a fleet station was a fueling depot owned by a company that operates a fleet of vehicles and it was available for that company’s vehicles only. Think UPS or Diamond Cab Co or Home Depot. Apparently that is not quite right. I do not believe that marinas belong on GB and I think the Mods have stated that at some point. If marinas listed in the MSL are gone without a trace I think that has to be the work of a Mod. When members delete stations because they are dupes or erroneous in any way they are marked as deleted but they do not actually disappear. The Mods definitely do not want duplicate or deleted station listings recycled into new listings. I did that once and got my knuckles rapped sharply. I think that Costco and similar stations should be listed only if it says “Members Only” in the Comment field. I have that in the Comment field in my FSL for the Harrisonburg Costco. GB desperately needs a means to enter permanent comments of this type in the MSL and have them carry forward to every price post for that station. There are a lot of stations that need a permanent comment of this type: “Cash only - no credit cards” “3¢ discount with Kroger card” “Ethanol-free gasoline” to name a few.
BullDozer50 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:14,604 Points:2,736,560 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 7:02:19 PM Ignore BullDozer50 Report Abuse As far as Deleted station discussion, there was a Virginia user (Va Beach I believe) that was "reusing" deleted stations for new stations. Even took some from the NC site and re-label as a Va station. So more than likely those old "fleet" stations are still there, but under a different name and area.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 1:27:35 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse The point I was making was that you said deleted stations stay in the MSL. That doesn't appear to be the case with my deleted stations.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 1:25:31 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Uh, yes it is→ "Consumers working together to save on gas"
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 1:15:51 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Well, this site isn't for marina gas prices.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 1:06:44 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Just checked on the marina stations that I added about 6 years ago and they've been DELETED, yes, DELETED from the MSL. Not a trace that they ever existed; not even in the station name drop down list.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 12:10:14 PM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I can't see some bayou bubba pulling out his iPhone and posting Floyd's Bayt an Takel prices from his raft. That said, I've been on a big lake and wanted to plan my fuel stop. That's why I've added marina stations. It would be an asset to Gasbuddy users. I can't possibly be the only one who has needed marina gas prices. Don't worry about someone getting confused because marina gas costs a whole hell of a lot more.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 11:48:16 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse I'll agree on everything except the boat fuel
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 11:26:54 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse The general public can go get themselves a fleet card and fill up at fleet stations if they wish. They can also join a membership club and get gas at those locations if they wish. They can also join the military or get a base job and get gas there if they wish. They could move to an area where the normal mode of transport is by boat and get gas at a marina too. General public is an ok term. We're just talking about segments of the general public in each case.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 11:16:10 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse Maybe general public isn't the correct terminology. Fleet stations only sell to fleet vehicles, correct? If you don't own a fleet vehicle you can buy gas at a fleet station.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 10:24:53 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse So then that would include military base stations and Sams Club/Costo (if they don't sell to the public).
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 10:14:21 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse I'm of the opinion if the general public can't buy gas, the station shouldn't be listed. Marina's that only sell gas for boats and other marine vehicles should not be listed, either.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 10:09:19 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse The mods have told me that they've received complaints that the public cannot buy gas at that one so I added "Fleet Cards" to the name. I did stop there and buy fleet gas though. Good point, ziyulu. There are also marina gas stations that only can serve water-borne vessles. Of course there's a street address to the station but the pumps are only on the water.
ziyulu Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,480 Points:1,598,995 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 9:56:59 AM Ignore ziyulu Report Abuse What about stations on military bases? Not everyone can purchase gas there, yet they are listed.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 9:54:54 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse OK in the case of the BP fleet station in Virginia, can the general public buy gas there?
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 8:47:51 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse Rob, Gasbuddy has (at one point at least) decided to keep fleet stations but have them marked so that people don't mistakenly get drawn to them. I can only guess the reasons for keeping them would be so that fleet users can be served by Gasbuddy and so that Gasbuddy can keep an accurate and extensive database of all stations. Information is valuable.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 8:43:07 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I don't know. That would depend on the station.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 8:35:04 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse I am a member of both and I can buy gas at both. So, plastic, just to clarify, individuals can't buy gas from a fleet station?
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 8:32:19 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse That could be true. I'm not a member at either so I've never tried.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,170 Points:3,249,620 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 8:00:08 AM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse From my understanding, an individual can't get gas from a fleet station but they can from a Sam's or Costco.
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,738 Points:2,835,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 7:00:07 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse I can't buy from Sams or Costco but I can buy from fleet stations.
bytebug Champion Author Orange County Posts:26,362 Points:4,120,705 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 6:28:18 AM Ignore bytebug Report Abuse >> Should we really be listing fleet stations on this site since the everyday consumer can't buy >> gas there? How are fleet stations any different than Costco or Sams Club? [Edited by: bytebug at 3/26/2012 9:28:49 AM EST]